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tetsuo69
09-02-2008, 10:01 PM
As per here (http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103315), we spent 10 days touring around southern Oregon and California. My god secondary highway engineers in the States mop the floor with their Canadian counterparts. People who think the Duffy loop is "like totaly the BEST man" really need to get out and see other parts of the world. I guarantee they had many nights around campfires with conversations like "Dude, that mountain we climbed today was sweet." "Yah man, we should like put a road up on it so we can bomb around on it" "Yah, screw that easy pass in between."

All in we hit up just shy of 7000km. Final route differed slightly from planned. Davet10 came with until Santa Cruz. After he took his map with him, we for some reason figured a google print out with some of the road #'s scribbled down was enough. It was, almost. :laughing Route part one (http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&saddr=burnaby,+bc&daddr=detroit,+OR+to:Canyon+Rd+%4043.886682,+-122.111978+to:N+Entrance+Rd%2FOR-232+%4042.969200,+-122.151880+to:I-5+N+%4042.439530,+-123.296960+to:CA-299+%4040.896640,+-123.932010+to:CA-3+%4040.558620,+-123.113300+to:US-101+S+%4040.538440,+-124.146760+to:Garberville,+Humboldt,+California,+U nited+States+to:CA-1%2FS+CA-1+%4038.818700,+-123.600240+to:Marshall-Petaluma+Rd+%4038.159453,+-122.813546+to:CA-85+S+%4037.293930,+-122.026010+to:santa+cruz,+CA+to:Reservation+Rd+%40 36.641965,+-121.711685+to:CA-1+%4035.823490,+-121.380470+to:CA-1+S+%4035.321000,+-120.716600+to:buttonwillow,+ca+to:Kern+River+Hwy%2 FMountain+Rd+99+%4035.883430,+-118.454580+to:Old+Stage+Rd+%4035.798869,+-118.818528+to:CA-65+%4036.289890,+-119.136140+to:Generals+Hwy+%4036.588090,+-118.752390+to:oakhurst,+ca+to:Glacier+Point+Rd+%40 37.725800,+-119.574624+to:CA-108+%4038.319350,+-119.608680+to:Dorrington+CA&hl=en&geocode=%3B%3BFVqonQIdFri4-A%3BFXCojwIdOBy4-A%3BFWqThwIdQKOm-A%3BFYAIcAIdlvKc-A%3BFRzgagIdrHCp-A%3BFUiRagIduKuZ-A%3B%3BFYxTUAIdkAKi-A%3BFV1ERgIdlgOu-A%3BFWoPOQId5ge6-A%3B%3BFa0cLwIdu9O--A%3BFYKfIgIdiuHD-A%3BFaj0GgIdyALO-A%3B%3BFaaJIwIdzIbw-A%3BFVU_IgIdIPnq-A%3BFWK9KQIddCDm-A%3BFTpKLgIdevvr-A%3B%3BFWimPwIdoG_f-A%3BFfa0SAIdmOre-A%3B&mra=dpe&via=2,3,5,6,7,9,10,11,13,14,15,17,18,19,20,22,23&sll=35.897116,-121.449051&sspn=0.073701,0.178528&ie=UTF8&ll=37.720763,-119.365082&spn=0.575725,1.428223&z=10) and part two (http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&saddr=Dorrington+CA&daddr=CA-89+%4038.811982,+-120.014458+to:Henness+Pass+Rd+%4039.493040,+-120.282840+to:Pleasant+Valley+Rd+%4039.290140,+-121.196870+to:CA-20+%4039.148560,+-121.585489+to:belden,+CA+to:CA-89%2FLassen+Peak+Hwy+%4040.524900,+-121.482420+to:CA-299+%4040.657260,+-122.914310+to:CA-3+%4041.519510,+-122.906720+to:47.639485,-122.189941+to:vancouver,+canada&hl=en&geocode=%3BFU45UAIdhrnY-A%3BFbCdWgIdKKHU-A%3BFRyFVwIduq7G-A%3BFRBcVQIdr8DA-A%3B%3BFWRcagIdTFPC-A%3BFWxhbAId-nms-A%3BFZaJeQIdoJes-A%3B%3B&mra=dpe&mrcr=1&mrsp=9&sz=8&via=1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9&doflg=ptk&sll=47.331377,-121.431885&sspn=1.973224,5.712891&ie=UTF8&ll=46.796299,-121.70105&spn=1.993125,5.712891&z=8).

Day 1: I-5 pretty much to get the distance down south. Started out on a bad note, pissing down rain. Off and on all day down the I-5. Trip almost ended before it started when we stopped at an overpass to throw more rain gear on and buddy's bike was DOA. We later traced to his ignition switch being twitchy, but at the time, pushing a bike down an onramp while it pissed down rain and a State Trooper is watching for sheenigans... well, memorable to say the least. Finally caught a bit of nicer road heading east outta of Salem before camping at Lake Detroit.

Day 2: Oooh Yah. Buddy forgets his old ass Ninja only gets ~180km/tank and we're sitting at 140 something, so first order of the day is detour from route over to Sisters OR via Hwy 20. Best thing to happen to us, as the road from Sisters back to Blue River, Mackenzie Hwy 242, was beautiful. Goes past a nice little volcanic area, tons of tight tight twisties. The rides, next to some random stone observatory thing on Mackenzie Hwy 242
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Careful for tree crap and gravel though as they're doing some construction as well. Aufderheide Scenic Biway (NF-19) is amazing. Pavement is showing age in spots, and gravel/tree crap is a problem, but we didn't see another vehicle the entire length, and ripping through the trees with just a hint of sunlight poking through for ~100km is almost perfection. Continued down to Crater Lake, which is spectacular, wish we had time to do some hiking on it. Almost died of boredom from Hwy 58/97/138. Overnight just outside of Grant's Pass.

Day 3: Redwoods. As we got nearer to the coast the weather chilled considerable and the rain picked up. Hwy 199 looked great but there was too much traffic and fog to truly appreciate it. Definately a road for a car trip. Stopped to warm up and lunch at Subway in Crescent City. Must have hit the insane asylum shift, that guy was messed up... Redwoods were great. Actually I don't really know, it was too faqing cold and foggy to see them much. We booted it asap to Hwy 299 and got up the mountain. Weather cleared and allowed us to enjoy the much anticipated 299/3/36 loop. Absolutely beautiful continuous stretches of twisties. I think at one point we had probably 20km w/o the bike straight. Unbelievable. Tar snakes in spots but for the most part amazing. Was getting late so we ripped down for a hotel in Garberville.

Day 4: Coast baby. Weather sort of cooperated. Cold ride down to Leggett to finally do the drive through tree thing.
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Hwy 1 from Leggett onwards is INSANE. Beautiful twisties, new asphalt in places, too many cars of course. Would have been much better if the clouds lifted more, we spent all day in/out of the fog. Still stunning scenery and roads.
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Realizing we had lots of road and little time we broke from the coast onto Hwy 116, which was a bad choice. Boring road absolutely full of cars and all of a sudden ridiculously hot. Took forever to get through to Hwy 101 and the freeway to San Fran. Gratuitous shot of the bike with some bridge.
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Lane splitting saved the day as Hwy 17 to Santa Cruz had an accident and we would have spent hours in traffic if it was BC. Instead we ripped up the middle in about 20mins and hit Santa Cruz before dark. Weather was crap again unfortunately so all we could do was hit a pub for beers, no swimming/beach girls/crazy kali beaches or even sea lions sadly.

Day 5: Davet10 split off for I5 home. Bet you that was fun. Hit up Laguna to escape the shiat weather and cuz its Laguna. Oh yeah!
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Unfortunately there was a Porche race on so we couldn't do laps (or so they said). More gorgeous coast. Unimpressed by Big Sur and the other "big" name places do the ridiculous a)prices b)number of ppl and c) weather not so great. Coast south of Gorda or so is fantastic though. Traffic was crazy so we didn't get a change to stop, but theres one section where you're winding down the mountain, drop off to the right to the ocean, and then all of a sudden you hit a cliff to the south and you corkscrew back and forth to get down. Most beautiful piece of road I'd see whole trip. Hit San Luis for a sweet music festival but no locks on the bike gear and good weather had us push on to Hwy 58. Started out beautiful, but I think the destinations Hwy takes a left somewhere as that's where all the other bikers ditched off and pretty soon we were in ranch land and then desert. Made for some nice stunt time tho. Random stops to prevent insanity yielded some sweet pics.
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Hit up Buttonwillow (oh ya...) for the night as it was crazy dark and I had probably already killed my millionth fly with my faceshield. For $44/n no towels and smelly sheets we probably could have done better at the I-5 stops just further down, but we only found those after scouting for dinner.

Day 6: Sequioa. Awesome ride up the Canyon to Lake Isabella. Tons of spots for a dip if you have time. Lack of maps hit us hard here, as the signage to turn north to the rest of Great Sequioa NM was missing so we kept on going. Google route doesn't actually show what route we took, but we ended up on some shitty ass half gravel thing :surrender that looped around forever until hitting the coolest tavern in the middle of nowhere (Fountain Springs) by which time it was over 40C. Had some awesome cheap tacos and got directions back to the real world. Must say tho that Mnt Rd 99 is fan freakin' tastic for twisties. Brand new pavement for most of the way too. Definately a ride before you die road.
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Sadly the one pic I have is of the old tarmac, but we were headed west/north which turned out to be the better than the other lane?! Very disappointed we missed the northern bit as I hear its more of the same!!

Sequioa NP is cool. Don't believe that propaganda from the ranger about General Sheman being the biggest tree though. Not after I asked the little ranger at the base "so how do you know it's the biggest?" "Cuz we measured it" "Oh, uhh, so that means you measured all the other trees in the world?" "Ummm uhhh.." "Or do you mean just the biggest that you measured in the States?" "No, the whole world" "Well have you been to Vancouver Island and seen the trees there?" "Van what? Is that in Alaska? We measured them there and they's all small".... ad infinum :devillook . Sweet road though, if you can time it to not have tons of traffic. Ripped on up to Lake Bass in Oakhurst for the night.

More+ pics to follow.

elevation
09-03-2008, 08:25 AM
Wow, a small google map and no GPS? That takes balls! You know they sell maps at every gas station right? :D I can't believe the amount of time you spent on the I5. I just couldn't do it. Your ass must be completely molded to your seat.

Glad you enjoyed the fine state of California. You are now officially ruined for any sort of riding through BC. Now time to explore Washington. There are definitely some California worthy roads there.

Let's see those pics!

SpideRider
09-03-2008, 08:31 AM
Hey, California religious zealot elevation!
Go spread your (likely true) B.C.-road-wrecking-inducing (accurate) commentary, and go jump in the lake!
Some of us can't disappear long enough to get that far away! :laughing

CoolDaddyGroove
09-03-2008, 09:45 AM
All must explore northern Cali "B" mountain roads (AAA by BC standards, can you say no frost?).

tetsuo69
09-03-2008, 09:26 PM
Day 6 Continued: Damn 10 image limit... Sorry for the quality/glare but it was sunny. If you look carefully you can make out where the road is. It switchbacks like 6 times in that stretch and of course its all cambered the right way unlike the crap here in BC. +3 for Sequioa NP.
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Day 7: Yosemite NP, Tioga Pass, Sonara Pass, Ebbets Pass. Road up south entrance into Yosemite. Beautiful palce, wish we had hard bags/a car so we could lock up the gear and go hiking. Road up to Glacier point was great as the car volume was low.
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Tioga Pass is great but we were around noon already so the heat and the cars took a bit from the enjoyment. But again definately will go back in a cage and stop to enjoy the alpine. Sonora Pass is an AMAZING road. Actually its a wagon track that happens to be paved would better describe it. It starts out with:
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Which is always a good sign. Peeks up at 9600ft, which is like ~3000m is real units, and is chock full of stuff like this:
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Pictures truly don't do it justice as the road is so curvy and rolling that you can't capture more than one twisty. Followed that beauty up with Ebbets Pass, which was also great, although apples to apples is a step down from Sonora. Guess that puts it about 14 ahead of Duffy. Camped in a sweet NF campground S.... something beside a damn resevoir (not actually Dorrington as per map), nice little 10km rip down a paved forest service road to get there.

Day 8: Last of Ebbets Pass, Tahoe, Hwy 49, Hwy 70. Slower day as the pain was adding up. Went by Tahoe. Knew we had reached Nevada by the wall of casinos by the street. Resisted the urge and survived the construction zones to get to Inclinced Village for lunch and laundry. Yet again hit by the "I don't want ppl to steal my gear" syndrome so skipped out diving into Lake Tahoe. Good roads outside of the cities overall for a relaxed cruise.

Got wammied by the google printout again as we tried to get from 49 to 70. The original plan had us taking twisties through Forbestown, the blue google squiggle didn't say that, it said 49 direct to 70... One gas station and old lady later we thought we were on our way. Sadly, the old lady somehow missed the helmets and sportbikes we were on, as the "quick route" quickly turned into half gravel half pavement montrousity of a road that twisted its way around the whole damn county before putting 10 miles south of where we started ONE HOUR later!!! Ugh... I almost passed out. Seriously, it was so hot and we had to take it so slow on that crap. A dual sport probably would have had a blast, but just like scurvy, who really cares as I didn't have one! Anyways, that meant we had to spend another 1hr plus on the straight busy highways to get back to Oroville and twisties of Hwy 70.

Oh, and I forgot to mention sometime in there buddy's front fork seal put it in the sheets. Mmm no damping on gravel....
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Day 9: Lassen NP, Hwy 299, Hwy 3, Bad decisions, Home. Started out early, great morning ride on the rest of Hwy 70, came close to exploding from the montrous french toast in Greenville. Grabbed Hqy 89 into Lassen NP. Brand new pavement for most of that road, and we were early enough to miss the traffic. Great drive, a little short but worth the entry fee.
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The Park itself isn't all the special if you ever seen any sort of geothermal stuff before, but if you haven't guess it might turn your crank. Did the little 1hr hike to the thermal area and was left wanting. Left there on 44 straight across to Redding (which happened to have its downtown park on fire and a bunch of ppl evacuated at the time). Dirty hot ride until we started climbing on that love child of highway engineers and Satan called Hwy 299. Sadly I have zero pics of it as I was way to involved scraping pegs. Sad to report that some major construction is going on on the hairpins, looks like they're blowing the mountain away and removing 3-4 switchback hairpins.

Missed a turn again so we headed into Weaverville instead of the Lewiston road. Hwy 3 has seen better days. We took it down a notch after being spooked for the nth time on tar snakes. Can't wait to retry once they repave. The super tight bit that gets closed in the winter is still veeeery nice though. Watch out for deer. Finished off Hwy 3 about 5 or so, so we headed on up I5 to get some distance towards the Oregon Coast, which was our next destination.

Hit Grants Pass about 8pm. Were about to find a campsite when we realized it was a)still light out, b) getting cold c)going to rain tomorrow and c) had just ridden way way way too many awesome roads to feel the need to do more. So the decision to leave OR and WA roads for another trip where we could actually appreciate them and truck it home was made. Vast quantities of coke, red bull and some crazy ass 6hr energy drink which had been advertised everwhere were purchased. Layered up and took off. What followed, I don't really remember, but it started raining before we reached Salem, got real windy and no matter how many layers I put on I still couldn't really feel my legs per say. We stopped at a gas station in Oregon for like an hour drinking hot water n Red Bull while listening to some crazy gas jockey. At about 4:30am just outside of Olympia the pummeling rain and zero visabilty dictated we take over a hotel lobby for a few hours. Thank you Holiday Inn Centralia!! Got back on the horse still tired still wet at like 6 when the sky was brighter and the rain lighter to deathmarch it home. Got home somewhere around 11am. I swear the drive from Seattle in took over 18 hours. Or at least it felt like it. So all in we did ~1600km in the last 28 or so hours of the trip, with tons of stops a hike thrown in for good measure. Beer, Tylenol, and sleep consumed the rest of the day.

Let the questions fly, and speak up if I missed naming a road or something.
Thanks for reading.

tetsuo69
09-03-2008, 09:46 PM
Wow, a small google map and no GPS? That takes balls! You know they sell maps at every gas station right? :D I can't believe the amount of time you spent on the I5. I just couldn't do it. Your ass must be completely molded to your seat.

Glad you enjoyed the fine state of California. You are now officially ruined for any sort of riding through BC. Now time to explore Washington. There are definitely some California worthy roads there.

Let's see those pics!

Yah, after the first gas station we were like "that map sucks, its like the same scale as the google print..." and the second station was "ouch, 10 bucks for that thing?!" it became a running joke and we kinda of took it upon ourselves to prove 'them' all wrong... or something like that :)

My biggest problem with I5 is the concrete heaves were set at the perfect spacing to my bikes suspension such that I spent the whole time doing a life size bobble head impression. The other two guys bikes had no such worries and they couldn't stop laughing at me and my luggage bounced up and faqing down km after km :surrender

Points AGAINST riding in the States:

-Concrete interstates, as above.

-My god getting gas is a PITA! First most places require a Zip code as apparently Americans think the entire world has those. Second that stupid OR union crap means you have to wait for buddy to get up and hand you the pump. And third, the tool that designed the heavy fumes extraction system on CA pumps must have been a grad from UofPhoenix Engimaneering, what a stupid idea that was.

-RVs. 'Nough said

-Americans, for the most part. Its kind of like Hallowe'en candy from Nelson. There might be a Mars bar stuffed somewhere in that bag, but 75% homemade candied apples, granola bars, and wild figs sort of contaminate the rest and make it not worth your time digging the diamond in the rough out.

-Suburbia. They invented them afterall, so it should be expected they are best at making them. But if you can avoid cities altogether (aside from San Fran) you'll enjoy the experience much more.

2cents.

J_Scott
09-04-2008, 07:57 AM
lol @ Halloween candy from Nelson. :laughing


Good report! It's usually the best when your plans change so don't sweat it about detours. I've done many of those trips with nothing but a google map and it makes things interesting. ;)

smokinjoe
09-04-2008, 12:41 PM
Awesome report and pics!

tetsuo69
09-04-2008, 11:06 PM
lol @ Halloween candy from Nelson. :laughing


Good report! It's usually the best when your plans change so don't sweat it about detours. I've done many of those trips with nothing but a google map and it makes things interesting. ;)

:bowdown You're definately doing the kind of trips I'm interested in doing, so thanks for your reports. Heck I'm even slowly convincing myself into buying more of a sport tourer so wifey can come along for more than the day trips, she's above the curve but no where near as good enjoying the back of the bike as yours appears to be!

Maverik
09-06-2008, 11:37 PM
Yah, after the first gas station we were like "that map sucks, its like the same scale as the google print..." and the second station was "ouch, 10 bucks for that thing?!" it became a running joke and we kinda of took it upon ourselves to prove 'them' all wrong... or something like that :)

My biggest problem with I5 is the concrete heaves were set at the perfect spacing to my bikes suspension such that I spent the whole time doing a life size bobble head impression. The other two guys bikes had no such worries and they couldn't stop laughing at me and my luggage bounced up and faqing down km after km :surrender

Points AGAINST riding in the States:

-My god getting gas is a PITA! First most places require a Zip code as apparently Americans think the entire world has those. Second that stupid OR union crap means you have to wait for buddy to get up and hand you the pump. And third, the tool that designed the heavy fumes extraction system on CA pumps must have been a grad from UofPhoenix Engimaneering, what a stupid idea that was.

-RVs. 'Nough said

-Americans, for the most part. Its kind of like Hallowe'en candy from Nelson. There might be a Mars bar stuffed somewhere in that bag, but 75% homemade candied apples, granola bars, and wild figs sort of contaminate the rest and make it not worth your time digging the diamond in the rough out.

-Suburbia. They invented them afterall, so it should be expected they are best at making them. But if you can avoid cities altogether (aside from San Fran) you'll enjoy the experience much more.

2cents.

I'm glad to see my ex tankbag now conquested 3 corners of of 48 states (been to Maine). Now are you taking it to Florida? :laughing

I've got lots of day offs this month, so I've been browsing ride report, now here's yours. I'm staying Salem, OR on Tue., then probably Eugene, OR the day next. I've got 6-days this time, not sure if I'm going to touch CA then come back or head east towards Idaho.

I don't remember when was my last time I paid for a map, states usually provide pretty darn good maps for free, and I collected free maps from CAA when I was once a member.

That rough concrete surface used to be hard on my previous bike SV650, but I don't it too much on my current bike. One example is I-5 just south of Blaine. I used to sing or talk when I was on SV650, good way time to kill time on boring freeway with funny voice :laughing

Here's a trick using non-US credit card at gas pumps in the US. Enter the zip as 99999. I've once saw this very kind notice on a pump for foreign credit card holders, it's been always working since. It's not really for marketing purposes, but rather for security purposes.

Those fuel guns with foreskins, it's a pain in the ass, but just thank that as an oppotunity to excercise your arms and hands. An attendant in Portland told me that many girls (on bikes) can't handle it, so they fill it up for them.

RVs...what can I say, they should require a bus license.

Americans...ya, diversity is a word, just like their landscapes.

I start loving suburbia these days when I'm on the road of US of A. Food in out-of-nowhere USA really sucks, hardly edible. In such places, I'm so happy to find places like McD, Starbucks, etc. Besides, almost always places like Salem, Eugine, etc offers cheap accomodation, almost half the price of those on the coast or other resort places. Salem and Eugene even got Baja Fresh (http://www.bajafresh.com) ! I go for riding, not for romance.

GSP
09-07-2008, 06:00 AM
Its kind of like Hallowe'en candy from Nelson
:laughing :laughing

Commuter Boy
09-07-2008, 09:15 AM
Second that stupid OR union crap means you have to wait for buddy to get up and hand you the pump.


Nope, you can pump your own gas in a bike in Oregon, we have an exemption.

Besides crashing out in hotel lobbies, casinos are a great deal when you need a few warm and dry hours. They'll happily check your gear for you and let you wander around, grab a drink and some cheap food, all you have to do is drop a few bucks in the slots.

tetsuo69
09-08-2008, 05:55 PM
I'm glad to see my ex tankbag now conquested 3 corners of of 48 states (been to Maine). Now are you taking it to Florida? :laughing

I've got lots of day offs this month, so I've been browsing ride report, now here's yours. I'm staying Salem, OR on Tue., then probably Eugene, OR the day next. I've got 6-days this time, not sure if I'm going to touch CA then come back or head east towards Idaho.

Here's a trick using non-US credit card at gas pumps in the US. Enter the zip as 99999.


Yah when you said the rain cover was hooped, it really was. I ended up with a garbage bag underneath, otherwise it's a great bag. Anyone know of a place to buy a rain cover type cover with a zip cord cinch on it?

First fill I tried 90210, it worked and I got excited. Then it never worked again. Will have to try 99999.


The route we took from Detroit to Oakridge is phenomenal. I see my map ran out of waypoints so it doesn't actually include Sisters, but Hwy 242 west of Sisters is sweet. For you as you have the time I'd recommend starting with St Helens -> Hood -> NF roads to Detroit. That would be a fantastic day. I could also spend a few days arcing back and forth from the coast to the smaller N/S roads west of I5, weather depending.

After getting back I didn't want to see my bike for a loooong time. It past pretty quick. :devillook