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    Feedback needed for Scrap-It Program

    As you may have already heard, after a phone call from Mike Bruce (Carter Honda) regarding whether or not motorcycles were included in B.C.’s SCRAP-IT Program BCCOM decided to look into the matter and have since written to the Ministry asking for motorcycles to be included.

    For those of you not aware of the program it is an incentive by the Ministry of the Environment to try to get automobiles older than 1995 off the road. This is how it would work, you turn in your car and purchase a motorcycle newer than 2006 from a dealer registered with the program and depending on the amount of green house gas your old vehicle emits you can receive and incentive worth $500.00 up to a maximum of $2000.00!

    The Coalition feels that it should also be available to purchase a newer motorcycle being as they give the incentive for bus passes and the purchase of bicycles. For more information on how it works go to www.scrapit.ca and we will keep you informed as to the decision made.

    We are asking all riders to please go to our poll at www.bccom-bc.com and vote, as the Scrap-It program wishes to know if there is an appetite for this program before it is implemented. Thank you.

    Adele Tompkins
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    I can see this for old trucks and larger displacement cars, but how much carbon does even an old and inefficient 600cc motor emit?

    A bike'll probably only rate $500.

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    I'm not sure if I read it wrong, but it seems it's only applicable to the lower mainland. Did I get that right?
    I owuld love to trade in the old Honda Civic for something fun! I mean green, or whatever.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthSquid View Post
    I can see this for old trucks and larger displacement cars, but how much carbon does even an old and inefficient 600cc motor emit?

    A bike'll probably only rate $500.
    I think it's about being able to send your car to the crusher and get a bike instead. Or bicycle or skytrain pass.
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    i know a few people who've done this with cars and i think it'd be great if motorcycles were included.

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    OooOOooOoh. I obviously misread this.

    I've got an old Ranger kicking around that I'd love to be able to trade in on an enduro.

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    I've used the program 4 times & every time I would have lost the deal if it wasn't for Scrap-It. Part of the Scrap-It money ($500) is kicked in by the dealer (that's the dealer's 'cost' of being an authorized Scrap-It dealer) & the rest of your Scrap-It money comes from the government.

    Lets say you've been spying a KLR, for example, & the bike costs $8000 (too lazy to look up real cost). You're current ride is a V8 powered 1992 Crown Vic:

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    New Vehicle Incentive

    If you are buying a 2004 or newer vehicle from a participating dealer, the incentive value depends on the vehicle being scrapped and the replacement vehicle. The value is based on the greenhouse gas reduction that occurs when you scrap your old vehicle and replace it with a new one.

    - To qualify for $2,250 you need to reduce CO2 by at least 4 tonnes over 3 years.
    - To qualify for $1,250 you need to reduce CO2 by at least 2 tonnes over 3 years.
    - Anything less than 2 tonnes CO2 reduction over 3 years qualifies for $750


    Crown Vic = 4.84 tonnes x 3 years = 14.52 tonnes
    "KLR" (aka Swift) = 3.03 tonnes x 3 years = 9.09 tonnes

    14.52 - 9.09 = 5.43 tonnes saved over 3 years = $2,250 Scrap-It qualification

    $8000 KLR - $2250 total Scrap-It discount = $5750 + taxes/etc cost to you. In essence you just got $2250 for what I would call a "dollar car" (i.e., worthless). A good deal, wouldn't you agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arthur pappas View Post
    I've used the program 4 times & every time I would have lost the deal if it wasn't for Scrap-It. Part of the Scrap-It money ($500) is kicked in by the dealer (that's the dealer's 'cost' of being an authorized Scrap-It dealer) & the rest of your Scrap-It money comes from the government.

    Lets say you've been spying a KLR, for example, & the bike costs $8000 (too lazy to look up real cost). You're current ride is a V8 powered 1992 Crown Vic:

    Attachment 74635

    New Vehicle Incentive

    If you are buying a 2004 or newer vehicle from a participating dealer, the incentive value depends on the vehicle being scrapped and the replacement vehicle. The value is based on the greenhouse gas reduction that occurs when you scrap your old vehicle and replace it with a new one.

    - To qualify for $2,250 you need to reduce CO2 by at least 4 tonnes over 3 years.
    - To qualify for $1,250 you need to reduce CO2 by at least 2 tonnes over 3 years.
    - Anything less than 2 tonnes CO2 reduction over 3 years qualifies for $750


    Crown Vic = 4.84 tonnes x 3 years = 14.52 tonnes
    "KLR" (aka Swift) = 3.03 tonnes x 3 years = 9.09 tonnes

    14.52 - 9.09 = 5.43 tonnes saved over 3 years = $2,250 Scrap-It qualification

    $8000 KLR - $2250 total Scrap-It discount = $5750 + taxes/etc cost to you. In essence you just got $2250 for what I would call a "dollar car" (i.e., worthless). A good deal, wouldn't you agree?

    I think that is a fantastic idea. They have a similar program here, the money can be used towards alot of things, from running shoes to bus passes, to gym memberships, bicycles, skateboards, rollerblades - somehow I forsee scooters or limited cc bikes only being allowed, would love to be proven wrong...but its unlikely the gov't will support increase in motorcycles due to public scrutiny.
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    I would use the program as long as the kick back is substantial.
    For me it has to be worth at least $1500,
    Otherwise, I am sure I could get more value selling my old beast on craigslist.
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    Hey, I just came across this interesting documentary about greenhouse gasses. Apparently the correlation between global warming and greenhouse gasses is the other way around.

    http://www.viddler.com/explore/micheleforan/videos/2/

    Not sure about the sources used here haven't looked into it yet. Can prolly start at 24:19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorcha View Post
    Apparently the correlation between global warming and greenhouse gasses is the other way around.
    Damnit, I knew it! That damn global warming causes green house gases!!
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    Please go and respond to the poll, we need as many people as possible to make it happen.

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    Sorry to resurrect this... is it safe to assume nothing ever came of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerunt View Post
    Damnit, I knew it! That damn global warming causes green house gases!!

    co2 increases as temps rise. hope you wrrr just being a smart ass.
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