Justifiable or not?
Justifiable or not?
Wow, not a nice video......I guess you "had to be there", but from what I saw, it certainly appears the officer went overboard.
That said, the one guy, who got stupid and went over the curb, set the tone for the incident.
Jesus fitty tucking christ, that was disturbing
Its another viral party. Guy says he couldn't hear the sirens behind him over the exhaust of his bike. Loud pipes didn't save his ass.
I'm not even going to bother watching this. Always hard to make a really solid conclusion based on a few minutes of video when you're not there, and all it'll do is make me frustrated and angry that things didn't work out differently.
Dumb asses should have not speed away like morons starting the whole incident.
"Yamaha" - it's Japanese for "fuck your sports car."
Somehow I have the feeling that if these two riders pulled away from the light like that on sportbikes the tone in this thread would be different...I may have to look up some posts about the sportbike rider that had the gun pulled on him and see. (When I am done work.)
Shit happens. We don't know the frame of mind of the officer. Maybe he was a rookie. Does not look good for him though.
I can see how, possibly after a beer or ten, you might not notice a cop pulling up casually behind you...
I can see how, as part of the 'Harley-owning experience', it could be seen as common practice to suddenly and without warning, decide to rat-race your buddies from a stop, squeezing whatever small thrills you can find in that short snort of torque...
I can see how, once buzzed and up to speed, with the lack of a full face helmet your eyes would be watered blurry and ears deafened, the OCC-inspired aftermarket mirror the size of a dime on only one of your handlebars vibrating beyond all recognition, almost falling off, just there for inspection purposes anyway... you STILL wouldn't be aware of the glowing cop-mas-tree closing in behind you...
I can even see how, once rounding a slight bend and seeing a cop-car IN FRONT of you, you may suddenly realize what's happening just a bit too late, target fixate and fail to stop properly, up and over and into the rhubarb....
but I can't quite see how a trained officer would perceive that mans' actions and body language as such an instant threat to his survival that he would be forced to rely on split-second life-or-death decision making.
Look at the timer.
They get lit up for the first time around 3:45 into the vid, after their bad decision to squeeze on some speed, whether they were 'running' or 'oblivious', difficult to say.
But it's only about 15 seconds later down that same road where they come to another lit-up squad car in their field of view.
What do they do? One guy runs off the road... but he quickly regains control - and despite being pointed in the direction of more open road, he slows down, u-turns towards the cop, and pulls over to stop.
The other man, stops calmly and remains relatively still, takes his hands off the handlebars, and maintains a non-threatening body posture.
The officer beings shouting commands.
The man turns to look at the officer who is shouting. (imho, his hand does not move any more than it would due to the shoulder being pulled back as you turn your upper body.)
In a split-second, the officer interprets this movement as hostile, perceives himself in imminent life-or-death situation, and shoots the man.
yeesh. sounds like maybe he can't handle the pressure.
Either that, or when confronted with a suppressed biker-in-leather-S&M fetish, couldn't help but prematurely discharge his firearm...
"I dread beyond all else the growth of the petty tyranny of restrictive legislation, the transference of disciplinary authority from the judiciary to the constabulary, the abandonment of every constitutional safeguard of individual liberty."