A bit of a Newbie Question

# Thread: A bit of a Newbie Question

1. ## A bit of a Newbie Question

OK, I've been riding for a couple of years nows but just bought my R6 a couple weeks ago. The difference in performance is well, lets' just say... considerable After scaring the absolute sh*t out of myself on a cold set of tires (in the cold I might add) the question that has been probing my mind is "Exactly how long should it take your rubber to warm up to a 'safe' temperature in average conditions?" I have a reasonable idea, but never having spent the day at the track (yet) I'm never conviced untill I've been on the highway for an hour.

Anybody have any input?

P.S. I'm riding on a 2000-3000k set of Dunlops

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3. I found that riding around town doing the "bob and weave" to warm up the tires helps. It depends on the compound of the tire to how long it takes to warm up. A softer tire will warm up faster than a harder tire. A good rule of thumb that I was taught was to take it easy for at least a half hour just in case.

My 0.005 euro

4. I wonder about the bob and weave. I don't think that it warms the tyres considerably faster. It'll clean the tyre edges but I believe it's the acceleration and deceleration that heats up the tyres.

30 mins on the safe side. In cold weather don't expect the tyres to get to optimum operating temps.

Does anybody have any articles on the subject heating up tyres?

I found this 15 minute read on the internet- but I hate believing stuff written on the internet. It's about weaving on a track compared to a regular warm up lap. Not really applicable to our needs but interesting none the less.

Article on weaving

5. ## time

to be safe, just take it easy for the first 15-30 min. Then it should be good to go.

Espcially on a cold day.

6. Well depending on the vector discplacement of the quadrafenic force exerted from said tire determined by equation :

7n^3 - discpalcement
---------------------------- + rubber rating = time needed
vector angle + Tire width

will determine when you can push the envelope. I hope this helps

Im not talking out of my ass. Honest!!

7. or you could just check the tire pressure. I was always led to believe that a 10% rise in pressure meant the tire was ready to go.

8. I trust my Bridgestones after 10 mins.

portent would you mind explaing this stuff to me. I'm studin to be an engineer and i've never ever heard of this before. I'm not sayin its bs but i'm sure other people wanna know how this equation works? Where did you find it?

10. Posted by PeteDawg

portent would you mind explaing this stuff to me. I'm studin to be an engineer and i've never ever heard of this before. I'm not sayin its bs but i'm sure other people wanna know how this equation works? Where did you find it?
lol I was just messing around. I made it all up. It sounded like I knew what I was talking about though eh?

11. I found that my tire doesn't warm up to proper temp when it's cold out. I usually take it easy.

12. The only thing 'bob and weave' warms up is the officer's pen!
In formula 1 it helps maintain tempature, but doesn't build any.
On a race bike, it doesn't do shit, and is actually discouraged or not allowed.
On the street, it's just another reason to crash.
Make sure you have a good gauge. Make sure you run the recommended tempatures printed on the bike somewhere, or in your owners manual.
If the road's cold, ride conservatively, because the tires won't really heat up no matter what you do. Not enough to play hard anyway.

13. iT never got warmed up in the last few months...

await for summer... real summer and I will take 15 minutes to warm up..

Damnnn! more white stuff! Geess!

guess I won't be riding for the next few weeks...!

14. "BOB AND WEAVE" sure if you are trying to remove the marbles you picked up while going around the race track at slower speeds, while your tires were losing temp.... oh yea your on the street, no marbles, not super sticky tires, blah blah blah.

yes i have done this and still do...but not to warm up tires. most F1 and formula car tests have found that HARD acceleration and braking will warm up your tires in the most efficient way, and unless you want to take your bike to 100km/hr or more than brake as hard as you can back down SEVERAL times then this is not worth it either.

i know people have already said this but, time is your friend, and if ANYONE is wondering if thier tires are READY to go, then sorry to tell you, YOU are not ready to go. i am by no means saying that you (anyone reading this) are not skilled enough, but if you are wondering about stuff like this, then you are ahead of yourself, and should reathink about how hard you want to push

my \$1.50

15. ....15 minutes of highway riding not stop`n`go city riding where it would be foolish to ride fast anyway.

16. It seems there a lot of people out there that think 15 or 30 minutes or increased tire pressures are going to be making huge traction differences. Here is a little bit of helpful info for you, it ain't gonna help at all this time of year.

Sure if your last name is Duhamel or Fogarty you can tell but for all us average folks, stop fooling yourself and quit raising my ICBC premiums.

The pavement is cold out there. Unless it is t-shirt weather stop trying to ride like you did last summer. A lot of people are just getting back on after several months off. You need time to re-adjust to the bike .

Even if you are putting on a set of tire warmers the pavement is going to chill them down. This along with the sand, gravel, silt and every other bit of leftover winter debris minimizes your traction. Take your time and go slow. Chicks might dig scars but nobody digs a squid.

Save the high traction demands for summer. For now easy on the gas, easy on the brakes and easy around the corners will keep you upright.

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