So my wife, some friends and I were heading south of seattle on an unrelated trip over the weekend (jollibee's anyone?) I though since a few of us are riders, I thought we stop in a Mount Baker powersports. Anyways....my wife saw an hjc cl-16 and says why don't you get one. My Arai has manufacture date of 2000. I bought it new in 03, and have been using it for 7 years. So I was loooooong over due for a new lid, but just can't afford to drop 500-1000 bucks on a new arai. 156 bucks tax in for a new lid thats snell 2010 approved, comfortable, properly fitted, with plenty of features. it even came with this HJC feature called a pinlock visor system. its a silcon visor you attach to the inside of the helmet visor which prevents it from fogging. I will get another arai when the funds allow me to do so, but for now I am very happy with my new lid!