Vancouver population a little more green and passive than TO. City planners, my guess, here are more society concerned. Like, talking about congestion, land usage, environemental impact, etc. In USA or larger cities, it's about how they can get people thru quicker without crashing. I can just imagine going for a drive with Vancouver's past top planners. They probably are the worse drivers. They have no idea an apex exists in a corner. They didn't notice mid bump corner chassis unsettling. And they likely turn the signal on a few seconds before they decide to look around. And that's basically how I interpet turns signals now. When I see it go on, I know for certain that person hasn't looked. It means, look out for me cause I haven't.