While I agree, bike sales are up with electronics on a bike.
Let's be honest with ourselves. Less intimatating bikes sell better. The thought of having an e-nanny to save your useless self appeals to a lot of shit riders. Shit riders who would rather reach into the bag of excuses than take some training, do a track day, learn their limitation, learn the bikes limitations. Take responsibility.
Shit riders are buying bikes, good and great riders have track only $5000 shitters and buy everything online cause they are cheap pricks. This is a fact.
Don't paint em all with that brush, by no means don't. Just saying, this is what I've seen.
I know a few people who own BMW S1000RRs that ride them 24/7 in slick mode and have never had issues, same will come with the Panigale.
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whoops, you're talking about MotoGP.
its easy to talk about not using electronic aids when your bike doesn't come with any , doh !
listen to me or i will eat you're bacon
The OP was talking about MotoGP not the average rider. It is technology and things will improve and advance, learn to like it or you are going to be in a world of pain. Would you say that they should go back to carb's or lets take out the steering damper, that is for sissy's or lets go back to a leather scull cap instead of a full face helmet because back then men were men and it took balls of solid steel to ride a bike.
This is just the way it is and to "like" that video is going to change anything!
I must say I do like your e-nanny statement, funny.
To respond to your statement: I have ridden many bikes and the newer the bike the easier it is to ride. To name a few: My old 750 Katana was brutal, the TLR was better but still heavy, would not turn and lifted every time I gave just a little too much trottle, the ZRX was much better, then came the 636 which seemed like it took almost no effort to ride. The S1000RR or Pinagle or RSV4 or new ZX10R is just the newest technology and yes everything is going to get better and take less "skill" to ride as bikes advance.
Should it replace training - absolutely not.
a friend told me one day, "as I get older I welcome anything that could possibly save my ass while on the road or the track." I have to agree with him 100%
Just fyi, slick mode on the S1000RR still has a whole lot of DTC and ABS working with it. It just kicks in that tiny bit later than in Race or sport mode. You can however turn it all off at any point and prove to everyone what a man you are by doing so.
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phew. you can prove to be an even bigger man by only wearing a skull cap and shorts while riding. according to the troll account.
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Zig: what PeeWee is saying is if you hang onto the bars with both hands; you don't need all that fancy tech not to crash.
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That shit won't save you from freak accidents. It's a selling feature. Just like cages when ABS came out or DSC (traction controls). Doesn't make the bike more fun, unless you can turn it all off. How gay is it you have to turn all that shit off to bust a wheelie or burn out from the lights.
Guess if you all ride like bitches, it's just fine right?
Trust me, if you are a fan of MotoGP, you probably don't like the electronic shit either. Shit was way cooler when Rossi was drifting a 500cc 2 smoker sideways out of the corner and the pretenders?? Well they were getting highsided 15 feet into the air. Watching Stoner "Put in consistant laps" is putting me to sleep. I'm not even kidding, ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......watching motogp, WTF is that shit?
Pedrosa had a moment in the last round that allowed everyone past him, cold tire etc......too bad, I was looking forward to the dwarf toss he would have gotten.
I remember reading a good interview with Kenny Roberts Jr awhile back. He was saying during his last year in motogp, the electronics were setup where you can just wack the throttle pretty much full open while in full lean in the wet and the bike would handle everything. Basically saying it just wasnt the same anymore, there would be times where the rider would want to take the risk and get on the throttle earlier to get a better jump out of the corner, but the traction control and anti-wheeling would not allow it. The costs are so expensive now, they had to allow these CRT street bike based machines in now to help fill out the grids. They should allow the 2strokes back in to race the 4strokes. If Aprilia or anybody else wants to bring in a 500cc 2stroke because it will be cheaper for them, I say let them. (or 250 or 125 in the smaller classes)
Oh yeah, on street bikes I'm all for it. ABS has saved my bacon in the rain, as has traction control on a wet tar snake while heeled over on a highway on-ramp. But in GP? It's like watching slot cars now. OK, not that bad, but compared to pre-electronics it sure feels like it. I'm not saying I want to see riders high siding on every corner, I don't watch it fo the crashes - quite the opposite. I just think it sucks that the riders have to deal with things like random computer glitches that mean they never know when the front's going to tuck, or have to "trust the computer" and discard every instinct they have to open the throttle mid corner.
My 2 cents.
Indy cars are still pretty crazy. Until recently I had no idea just how much more power they have versus F1.