schneider to jersey for 9th overall pick
schneider to jersey for 9th overall pick
Incorrect. New Jersey "STOLE" Schneider. saying the Canucks Trading him seems to insinuate that they got something in return.
JK, Horvat is an interesting prospect, but they got raw fucked on the deal. The only good thing to come from this is they got a really good pick at #24.
I don't like being that guy that assumes being a GM is an easy job, but Gillis fucked up last year by not trading Luongo in the off-season, fucked up again by not trading Schneids at any time, for more than what they got.
I heard that Edmonton offered a 1st, 2nd and some prospect for him but the Canucks turned it down. Didn't want to move him within the division I guess.
Given luongo's contract this doesn't surprise me at all. I bet it got down to buyout luongo or move schneider. Ownership has also paid the heavier $$ on the contract so overall it will start costing them less. But I'm sure THAT had nothing to do it .
in retrospect for Schneider this will be the best thing that happens to his hockey career.
the canucks are imploding, and going back to where they have always been and belong,
Gillis and Aquilini have become a tag team joke, competing to see who can make the worst deal.
Trading Schneider was always the right move. You can debate the return, but with lack in the system and an ageing core, Schnieds was not the right fit.
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Not to question, where are you hearing he didn't speak to Louongo prior to the trade ?
I am not privy to the actual discussions that went on between Gillis and the other GMs but I cannot help but speculate that part of the problem is that Gillis way underestimated the impact of Lou's contract on his trade value. Gillis overestimated what he "should" get in return for Lou. He kept thinking in terms of "hockey trade" as opposed to an "offload a bad contract" trade which, IMHO, was the way all the other GMs were looking at it.
If the past trade rumours are true, Gillis could have received at least a second round pick for Lou, as recently as the trade deadline last season. If that is the case, he should have taken it. I would way rather have Schneider and an extra second round pick than Lou and and extra first round pick, even if that pick was in the top ten. I'd have a younger and better goalie plus I'd have an extra $1.3 M in cap space for another player.
As (I believe) Ray Ferrero said on TSN, how does this trade make the Canucks better next season? The Canucks have an aging core and need players that can help them win over the next couple of seasons not two or more seasons from now. So really, this trade is about adding to the Canucks' pool of future prospects. Which brings me to my last point...
Media reports also indicate that other teams were shocked at how little the Canucks got in return for Schneider, e.g. Edmonton reportedly offered first and second round picks and a prospect. I understand the idea of not trading to a division or conference rival but the extra pick and prospect are arguably what's needed if the intent of trading Schneider was to re-stock the cupboard. Three players are better than one even at the cost of strengthening a rival.
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Lets go get Brodeur LOL.
Gillis said last year you don't get very far offloading your star players for nothing when trying to move Luongo... but he did pretty much exactly that. I was watching the draft because I knew Gillis had to do something, and it was exciting. Can't tell you how deflated I was to hear all they got was the pick. They were lucky to get Horvat and Shinkaruk at 9 and 24 when those guys could have gone at 4 and 14 easily. But still... fuck me.
Gillis painted himself into a corner with the Luongo contract. That and making him the captain really stand out as terrible decisions, in my mind at least.
Wow, that is wild. I can't believe he actually said he had not spoken to Lou. That is mind blowing.
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