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    Petro Giants conspire to steal Billions from Canadians

    One of the biggest corporate consumer scams has to be the forever fluctuating and seasonal gas price scenario, and now it's at record levels. Pump prices rise several cents between morning and evening in efforts to squeeze more from drivers too rushed to fill up during the morning commute, summer gas prices rise to record levels as the summer driving season kicks off and consumers pay billions more than nessesarily.

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/bri...tory/1.2682166

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    Wow. Sounds like those petro giants have formed a "union" to increase their pay.

    It should definitely be busted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Wow. Sounds like those petro giants have formed a "union" to increase their pay.

    It should definitely be busted.
    Danke, Danke, Danke...
    Corporations don't unionize; they racketeer! Similar but different.
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    Oh what a relief. I was worried I'd have to worry about that all day.

    Now I just need to fix the gold leaf on my swimming pool and all will be well.
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    Fastn50's Corporate Racketerring ...

    The United States, under the Reagan administration, pretty much stopped applying the (well-intended and largely propitious) governance of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act's regulations and controls ... and now the world has 'too big to fail' (or control) players in almost all economic/corporate fields.

    When scrutinized through an incisive systems theory filter ... this cannot be a good thing.

    In other words - Fastn50 is spot-on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bandito View Post
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    Okay, just so everyone has an idea how this works.
    1.) the oil pipe lines are going through B.C. Like it or not.
    2.) to get that deal done, it cost money, lots of money, money for the pay offs in government, money for the Indians, and money to get the ball rolling as per say.
    3.) that money has to come from some where. Guess where?
    4.) Your smart if you guessed us!
    5.) And the more we are against those pipe lines, the higher the price will go.
    6.) So after all this is said and done, those in government will retire.
    7.) Why? Cause that is the only way they can distance themselves from the ultimate crime.
    In a nut shell, that is about as simplest as I can put it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solo soldier View Post
    Okay, just so everyone has an idea how this works.
    1.) the oil pipe lines are going through B.C. Like it or not.
    2.) to get that deal done, it cost money, lots of money, money for the pay offs in government, money for the Indians, and money to get the ball rolling as per say.
    3.) that money has to come from some where. Guess where?
    4.) Your smart if you guessed us!
    5.) And the more we are against those pipe lines, the higher the price will go.
    6.) So after all this is said and done, those in government will retire.
    7.) Why? Cause that is the only way they can distance themselves from the ultimate crime.
    In a nut shell, that is about as simplest as I can put it.

    Except Indians live in India.

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    Meh, another "Fast Ferry" program. 10 years from now, we'll have a bunch of rusted pipe available so we can sell it to the Dutch/Germans/Russians/Chinese for 10% of what they sold it to us for in the first place.

    In the meantime, the Unions will get fatter, the Unionised Labourers will earn a buck-twenty more than they do now, a bunch of politicians will get a bigger golden handshake, the taxpayer will pay more in taxes and the actual money spent will magically disappear back into the global economy to resurface in some or other controversial and expensive process to move the same money around again.

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    ok.

    There used to be 3 or 4 refineries supplying lower mainland. there is now 1. Rest were turned into tank farms because it was cheaper for the companies to refine in Edmonton and ship down here and/or they got tired of dealing with all the whiners who bought houses next to a refinery and then started to bitch about noise, smells, etc. In the process, they eliminated a few hundred of well paying jobs (tax revenue lost).

    All of those facilities are fighting for the capacity on the same pipeline, that also supplies facilities in WA state.

    When KM suggested increasing the capacity, people got all up in arms about it.

    So... what happens when everyone wants to drive more, thus depleting the limited supply? Prices go up. 40-something cents of it goes into taxes. 7C into "carbon tax", 15 or so into translink taxes.

    Rest are GST and provincial taxes.

    So. Who is here to blame? Oil companies that follow supply and demand, or all of the useful fucking idiots who keep bitching and moaning about pipelines, tankers, railroad cars, etc etc etc THEN turning around and saying their gas should cost less?

    yeah, fuck right off.

    I'll drive down to point bob to fill up. whiner can keep on whining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by made Man View Post
    ok.

    There used to be 3 or 4 refineries supplying lower mainland. there is now 1. Rest were turned into tank farms because it was cheaper for the companies to refine in Edmonton and ship down here and/or they got tired of dealing with all the whiners who bought houses next to a refinery and then started to bitch about noise, smells, etc. In the process, they eliminated a few hundred of well paying jobs (tax revenue lost).

    All of those facilities are fighting for the capacity on the same pipeline, that also supplies facilities in WA state.

    When KM suggested increasing the capacity, people got all up in arms about it.

    So... what happens when everyone wants to drive more, thus depleting the limited supply? Prices go up. 40-something cents of it goes into taxes. 7C into "carbon tax", 15 or so into translink taxes.

    Rest are GST and provincial taxes.

    So. Who is here to blame? Oil companies that follow supply and demand, or all of the useful fucking idiots who keep bitching and moaning about pipelines, tankers, railroad cars, etc etc etc THEN turning around and saying their gas should cost less?

    yeah, fuck right off.

    I'll drive down to point bob to fill up. whiner can keep on whining.
    Here we go again. Oh please enlighten us with your incredible wisdom.
    FYI, this happens every year at the start of summer.
    Was happening long before the Kinder Morgan pipeline debate was on the table.
    It's simple supply and demand except several years ago the pump price was linked to world market oil prices. That was when a barrel on Wall Street was $150+ US and pump prices where approaching $1.45L. Today Wall Street oil prices are just over $100 US a barrel but pump prices are over $1.50L.

    Who do you think is screwing who?

    BTW, have you been drinking or are you always this obnoxious?
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    Are you always a socialist prick or just when you drink koolaid?

    Price of beef and pork is going up as well. Why are you not blaiming Big Beef and Big Pork for it?

    If a refinery can only produce 50k barrels of product a day, that is it. you said there are more cars in bc now more than ever.so supply remaind the same.... as demand goes up and up and up.

    Now stop being an idiot.

    Right now gasoline is traded at about 312c/g or 82 cents pet liter. Add 10% in exhange rates. Add 40 something in taxes and you get the price you pay. add another few cents for profit sincr a business answers to shareholders and not whiners.

    Are you always this clueless or just stupid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by made Man View Post
    Price of beef and pork is going up as well. Why are you not blaiming Big Beef and Big Pork for it?
    Actually, they were on the decline for a while but have risen sharply the last week or so.

    I'm not sure you have lived in the country long enough to see how the retail gas market has changed. It used to be competitive... with regular price wars.
    Something happened... and like the flick of a switch, it was gone. Rather than retailers dropping prices, and stations down the road watching to drop and
    price match... the reverse seems to be happen.

    If one station goes up, the guy down the road goes up as well. If they are going to charge more, why not us too - mentality. It's not a competitive market, and it's not transparent.

    It's a commodity that people can't do without.
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