It's on the bucket list to go there one day. Sit on a chair and watch this shit show live to figure out WTF is going on.
Any shift workers out there wanna ride during the week PM me.
So the first black bike, did he just lean too far over and scrape the pegs on the ground?
What about the gixxer. Too much throttle vs lean angle?
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Number two dude looks like He escaped from the mad max movie set , pausing the vid to inventory his gear Is a must
listen to me or i will eat you're bacon
Test Crashing the Patented Helmet Slider . Pretty Squiddly
^^ Mohawk Boi was pretty inventive with his get off. Didn't you notice the dog paddle and judo roll which morphed into a graceful Starbucks pose at the end.
from an email the other day:
A couple of weeks ago we asked you to update your contact information with us and answer a couple of questions. One of those questions had to do with what skill you wanted to work on most. The results were very interesting. Over 30% of you said Body Position. So I thought I would follow that up with some insight. I hope you find this helpful.
So many questions surround correct body position. It's the one thing I have to tackle at every school or track day I attend. If I am being honest, I have to laugh at some of the stuff I see on track and even more at some of the stuff I hear. I am not sure when we lost sight of complete reality. I do know our sport is about 2 things, speed and lean angle. However, you cannot teach everyone the same thing, even more crazy to me is all this Moto GP talk. Yah, I know it’s cool to want to compare ourselves to the likes of Rossi and Marquez but lets be real. None of us have or are riding Moto GP bikes are we? How can we compare ourselves to the elite in our sport when we are riding our 2009 Streetbike. Even a current Superbike is based off a production 1000cc motorcycle. And tell me, what is wrong with how Josh Hayes, current 4 time AMA Superbike Champion rides or sits on a bike. Have you seen how 4 time BSB Champion Shane Byrne sits on a bike? Go have a look. Tom Sykes, Jonathon Rea, study them all.
Ok, so I'm not cool because I'm not telling you to drag your elbow, or put your head below your handlebars, I am sorry. You see, as your speed increases and lean becomes more important, then your body position changes. At 64 degrees of lean angle do you think Marc Marquez's body position is the same as when he is at 35 degrees of lean angle? Think about it;
What is your lean angle?
What do you think your bikes greatest lean angle is?
These are questions that are truly going to determine what your body position can get to.
So where is a good place to start? How about, what is comfortable. Think about when you ride to the grocery store. Why should you vary too much from that? You know how many people I come up on at a track day that have been taught to hang off a bike and they have 20 degrees of lean angle, they look so uncomfortable and awkward, I just don't get it.
If you are looking to be a Social Media hero then keep hanging off more than you need to. If you want to be a more efficient rider, get less tired and feel what your bike is doing under you then stop over exaggerating what you are doing on the bike. If you want to get to the checkered flag first model yourself after someone who is riding a bike similar to what you are. The Moto GP comparison just isn't realistic.
I wonder how many people know to lower their tire pressure and put some heat in their tires before maximizing lean angle
listen to me or i will eat you're bacon
RE the Pridmore letter...
I get how everyone wants to be a star (pun intended ) and many are not, and many look goofy trying. I get how its possible to exaggerate lean because of lack of experience or whatever reason.
At the same time, I find that a lot of guys get confused about where they sit in the spectrum of riding and what they need to be doing to ride effectively, due to the frequency of "one piece of advice to fit every rider" situations. I get Jason's point, but these kinds of messages can convince guys (we've all talked with these guys at some point) that 'leaning off is unnecessary for any street riding.'
If you look at the below pics (lean angle measured in lower left, subtract from 90, and yes, can't assume exact measurements due to camera angle etc etc but this is close enough to make the point), rossi, marquez and the other rider are hanging off at lean angles ranging from 61deg all the way to around 35deg. Does their body position change in that range -- yes, but are they at anytime sitting square on the bike as doing a grocery run? no. In every case, they're hanging off. is it absolutely true that motogp (or even novice racing) is going to be fundamentally different that riding on the street? yes, of course it is.
But the point of leaning, i.e. moving your centre of mass to the inside of the turn (at least according to any school / book / coach I've learned from) is to get more speed around the turn while preserving lean angle.
Preserving lean angle is something Im going to want to do whether Im at a track or on the street. Why? margin. Lot's of skilled street riders hit 45deg or more on a spirited canyon run. A good rider can hit 30deg in wet conditions on the street. Not motogp, not the bike's max, but still an extremely good idea to hang off. why? because you're leaving margin.
If you choose to ride at higher lean angles on the street, you're taking _a lot_ more chances by not working body position correctly. If you choose to never exceed the speed limit (a very valid choice that is much safer), then yes, correct, you don't need to care about lean angle, body position, or really much else from the sport riding technique department. but if you're going to push your bike a little more in the canyons, PLEASE ensure you have a good understanding of body position and technique generally.
Another point is this. Body position takes practice. it doesn't start to magically correctly occur when you suddenly roll up to a track day in the expert class and you're hitting race level lap times.
Body position comes (and works) because you've worked it out a lower speeds first.
Everything works like this: you practice slow to get fast.
Then later, when you go to the track, you're way further ahead knowing what to do with your body to get your bike working as it should because you did your homework as much as you could to get ready.
Last edited by JRod; 03-21-2015 at 09:02 PM. Reason: added a note to subtract from 90deg
interesting that I don't think i've ever seen anybody crashing going down the hill around the curve on the inside. just up. on the outside.