Radar Bullshit

Thread: Radar Bullshit

1. Radar Bullshit

8:22pm today I'm riding with my girlfriend on my bike heading east on Marine Drive after making a left from Victoria Drive. I'm travelling in the middle lane of the 3 lanes at 65km/hr.

I see a VPD cruiser heading west in the opposite direction in the fast lane travelling about 30 - 40 km/hr. He pulls a u-turn after I pass him and pulls me over for speeding as he said he has me on radar doing 74km/hr.

Speeding? 65km/hr on Marine?
I keep my cool as I see this as some kind of f#\$%#n harrassment towards bikers and thinking he'll give me a warning.
He hands me a \$115 ticket.

I ask to see the radar but the officer says it doesn't capture the reading so I can't see it. He say's just dispute it.

Now unless the VPD has equipment that calibrates their radar gun so it takes into account the direction and speed that the gun is travelling I see this as pure fuckin bullshit.

Any fuckin physics student can tell you that the speed he is travelling is additive to my speed because I'm travelling in the opposite direction.

30km/hr + 65km/hr does not equal 74km/hr. Should equal 95km/hr at least.
My fukin point, who the fuck takes radar measurements while fukn driving.

Now I have to waste my time to dispute this fuck'n bullshit.

Sorry to whine but I feel I just got shafted....Anybody else experience this situation?

I respect the law but this Officer needs some training in coming up with better bullshit

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3. Did this marked unit have "Collision Investigation" on the side. Those guys have car mounted units that have the ability to calculate your speed even when they're moving. The speed that gets displayed will be your speed coming or going.

Of course, if he says he had you on radar, he better have because it's credibility at issue.

For 74km/hr in a 50 zone, the standard fine is 173. The minimum fine of 115 was written so he gave you a break.

In disputing this ticket, keep in mind that he may not even need to introduce radar evidence. The fine he gave you means that you were going between 51 and 70 km/hr. All the evidence he needs to present in court is his driving experience and his ability to estimate speed. The fact that he wrote you a lesser fine is not a defence of any kind. It just means you got a break.

If he's been tested to give speed estimation, + or - 5 km/hr is standard. That means, if he estimated your speed at for instance 70km/hr and he's out by 5 either way, you're still over 50km/hr and so the 115 ticket stands.

Don't get caught up on being able to see the radar unit. There is no requirement to show it to you. Some will, some won't.

The other thing about speed is that we only check our speedometer so many times a minute when we ride. Roll on the throttle and you've moved up 10 clicks without blinking.

With radar, they're watching for the highest number and click, that was the fastest speed you reached. Unfortunately, that might not have been the speed your speedometer was at when you looked.

We all know how fast sportbikes can accelerate so keep this in mind.

Bottom line is going to be your credibility. If the JP asks what speed you were doing, what will you say?

It's frustrating but I hope this helps a bit.

4. what you say is "I was not speeding judge!"

5. LOL, man stay away from the ISLAND patrol, these #### got me twice and allways while driving with there radar on, most cars have full radar, front and rear they just choose not to use it while driving but not the highway patrol

6. Sounds like another classic vpd ticket on marine. Whats the average speed of cars on that road? bout 70 . You were doing 60-74 on a bike capable on doing 200+ in mere seconds. I've been ticketed in that same spot.

What are you going to do sit in the middle lane on a bike with no seatbelt or bumpers while everybody else blasts by you on both sides people tailgating you and coming right into your space or keep up with traffic and have all your limbs attached when you get home.

I hate fuk head cops. Ticket the manics being reckless and leave us 10-20 over keep up with traffic people alone!!!!

7. Know what they say, those radar devices give off major cancer causing radiation.

Let's just hope radar cops never succumb to the radiation...

8. wake up ninja rider

someone died there yesterday night. got hit by a truck. the body and the bike where found in the trees. hope you two were wearing safty gear. haha. cops have a job. your job is not to get caught if yur speeding especially if you have a buetifull ladie on the bike with you. why dont you buy her a bike so you can follow her so she can get the tickets.

9. Originally posted by mosquito
Sounds like another classic vpd ticket on marine. Whats the average speed of cars on that road? bout 70 . You were doing 60-74 on a bike capable on doing 200+ in mere seconds. I've been ticketed in that same spot.

What are you going to do sit in the middle lane on a bike with no seatbelt or bumpers while everybody else blasts by you on both sides people tailgating you and coming right into your space or keep up with traffic and have all your limbs attached when you get home.

I hate fuk head cops. Ticket the manics being reckless and leave us 10-20 over keep up with traffic people alone!!!!
I would say something along those lines too in court to the judge. I would say traffic was going much faster than speed limit, you were trying to keep up with traffic but may have briefly accelerated to get away from the car who was tailgating you very closely in order to get you and your girlfriend away from danger. I'm not saying it is right or wrong to "lie", I'm just saying that is probably what I would plead to the judge in hopes of having my fine reduced in case I was really low on funds.

Personally, I'd be really really freaked out going 50km/h on Marine Dr.

10. Cops do not have divulge your speed to you.

11. I think you might have a case... challenge the supposed radar...

12. Originally posted by keneda21
Cops do not have divulge your speed to you.
what the fuck are you smoking?

it's called "disclosure".

You CANNOT be charged with any crime without being informed of sufficient, worthy evidence.

Did you sign the ticket Ninja rider? You should've told this cop to fuck right off.

If you know you were doin 60ish and he's booked you for 70odd then what are you doin givin in to him?
TELL THEM TO EAT A COCK!

AND GIMME A FUGGIN BREAK ABOUT THE COP GAVE HIM A "BREAK" just cuz he made the ticket 115 bucks as supposed to 173.
that's not a break.....i mean, maybe to you pushovers it is, but to anyone with anysense on thier shoulders who knows they weren't doin the speed they're gettin fucked softly, but still gettin fucked.

I don't care if behind this all Ninja's tellin us porky pies, cuz i know this type of shit goes on every day.

Ninja= you dispute this ticket,but next time...even if it means goin down to the station, tell the cop to piss off and get to his warm cuf of coffee.

Mosquito- Why's this guy, or you , or anyone immediately guilty cuz you're on a sportbike? so what if he's in the middle lane? there's debri on the inside, and he wants people to pass on the outside. fair argument.

Over

13. All I can say is, glad that I have a radar detector.

14. "Fight that ticket in B.C." The cost is about \$10.00 and Chapters carries the book. read it and defend yourself. And buy a radar detector!

15. #1 way to win a radar ticket is this. In court ask the cop if there were any other cars on the road around you. When he says yes ask him if he has ever made a mistake. When he says yes say. Is it possible the radar got another car around me. IF he says no ask the judge for all of his records, showing he cant make mistakes. worked for me! u can add things on if u want but u get the idea.

fish

16. As far as signing the ticket, it does mean anything. It is not admitting guilt or anything. Signing the ticket is just saying that you recieved the ticket and that's it it.Thats why it doesn't matter if you sign it or not. Mosquito it's nice to know you hate cops and that you probably didn't phone them when your car was stolen. NIce to know my tax dollars aren't wasted on others.

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