I just bought these pants and I found another pair that match my jacket. These are Joe Rocket leathers - no knee sliders, just hip and knee armour - all black. I wear size 33-34 pants and these pants fit great in the waist, a little loose in the hips/thighs. I've worn them twice, the previous owner only once. They're valued at close to $300 but I'm selling them for $160 [firm] for a quick sale. PM me with your interest. Thx