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Some not too well advertised information:
Telus ADSL = about 6 GB monthly traffic
Regular Shaw = about 20 GB monthly
Shaw Extreme = about 50 GB monthly and faster modem
I say 'about' cuz they're very flexible. I was on regular shaw then discovered those little nasty bittorrents and after an 80GB month i got a warning email and after another i got a phone call....then i upgraded to extreme and checked my usage (u can check your usage history online with shaw, i don't know about adsl).
thats the "by the book" info...
it also depends on where u are for telus speed and how busy your area is for shaw speed.
Telus SUCKS! At EVERYTHING!
There are two sides to everything.
I agree that Telus customer service sucks, long waits, bad reps. But when ADSL is working it does so for long periods of time, and I am talking weeks, sometimes months without a hitch. I have had Telus ADSL for 5 years plus and use it to transfer excessive amounts of streaming data, I have never received a warning or been charged extra.
Shaw is supposed to have better customer service, but I have heard from many ppl who used it that they had frequent outages anywhere from a few minutes to a several hours once or twice a week.
I guess it also depends on where you actually live. IN some areas one of the two providers will have the better infrastructure. You could try and see if you find one of their mechanics that drive around and ask them about connectivity in your area. Those guys are usually pretty honest and wont push their product if they know something better.
I have ADSL at work and Shaw Extreme at home. If your talking speed theres not contest, shaw extreme is faster then my telus at work all the time, even primetime. If your talking reliablility, again no contest, I can count the times shaw/rogers been down in the last 6+ years on 1 hand, I can't count how many times my ADSL has been down in the last year on two hands.
I've heard people have the opposite experience so it totally depends on your area. Personally after using both I'd take Shaw anyday of the week. Then again your going to get people who have had nothing but problems with shaw so it's a total crapshoot.
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OMFG. There's a Shaw Extreme!??
Reminds me of the Simpsons.
Poochy: "Remember kids, always recycle....TO THE EXTREME!!"
Mr. Burns: "Remember Homer, there is no muscle stronger than the human heart."
Homer: "What about the weiner? I saw some guy on TV lift a can of paint with his."
WTF do you guys have running that requires so much bandwidth? Business related stuff? Gaming? Or file-sharing (napster/kazaa/whateveritscallednow)???
(I guess I'm assuming we're talking about home internet connectivity...?)
My Telus comment was totally in regards to customer service. Had a BAD experience with them across the board last year.
As for Shaw reliability.. I guess it depends on your area. I'm near Kits and I have been down probably twice in 1 year. Also my cable modem burned out and they were over in a matter of days to replace it.. free of charge. That's the big difference.. free service calls. Telus will charge you for picking up a pen and writing down your address and if they overcharge you, they don't refund.. they credit your balance.. maybe not even for a couple of months.
I love my Telus ADSL
I was on Shaw Cable for years and recently discovered Bittorrent as well, after a short while, Shaw suspended my account a few times for overuse.
Every single time my internet was down, I would call Shaw and they would act like they don't know there's a problem. Then shortly after the phone call, it miraculously works again on its own, no matter if I called within half an hour of the internet being down, or call the next day when it still isn't working.
For playing online games, I found that Shaw wasn't too bad, I would ping around 40-60 for Counter-Strike.
However after being suspended twice, I said: "F*** this", and decided to give Telus a shot because several of my friends recommended them. My download speeds are now higher, Telus has not once warned me about overuse, and my net has only been down once.
I now ping around 20-30 for Counter-Strike (same game servers as when I was on Shaw).
My friend who is on Shaw Extreme still pings at 40-100 on the same Counter-Strike servers.
Basically, it comes down to this.
If you're a high traffic user, as in you transfer many GB per month, then Telus ADSL is the one for you.
If you're a high bandwidth user, as in you don't particular download a lot, but when you do download, you want it to be FAST, then Shaw Extreme is the one for you.
I've never used Shaw cable, but I've heard enough stories to know I wouldn't have lasted a month with them. I consistently transferred 150GB +/- 20GB every month for about two full years with Telus ADSL, and never heard a word. Shaw would've been on my ass within a week probably.
For me, the higher (basically unlimited) traffic limit for Telus completely overshadows the higher speeds that you can get from Shaw Extreme.
What good is having high download speeds if you have a set traffic limit?
Shaw Extreme just means you get to be suspended faster.
I'd rather go with Telus at 175KB/sec download and 65KB/sec upload (concurrently) and transfer as much as I want (theoretically I can do 450GB download and 175GB upload per month), compared to downloading even say 500KB/sec with Shaw Extreme and getting suspended after reaching 50GB.
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I'm with the Telus supporters. 5 years of ADSL, only had two problems. One has been their lack of enough dynamic IP addresses to go around. That means once a month or so my ADSL goes down and the only message I can get from their "automated" technical "service" line is "customers in the north burnaby area may experience difficulties obtaining an IP address". Well, no shit, that's why i'm calling. When will it be fixed, dumbasses?
The second problem was with an email account, that to this day remains unresolved. I have three email accounts, and only two people in my house, so the problem has been left ignored for now. The third account reports an error if you send an attachment larger than 3M. You get a message that a message was refused because it was 3M in size, that the mailbox only allows emails up to 15M in size, and that the current free space in the mailbox is 2M. But if you check on webmail, there's *nothing* in the mailbox. Telus's only solution was for me to use the other email account that came with my ADSL, and to abandon the first one. Thanks, dumbasses. How about *fixing* the problem?
Despite those two problems, they pale in comparison to the sh*t that friends with Shaw have gone through. One friend set his computer up so he could dial into it from his cabin (using the phone line) and check his email, retrieve (small) files, etc. Shaw found out, and cut him off. Said he was "running an ISP" with his Shaw account. Despite explaining what he was trying to accomplish, they said he couldn't do that. He told them to shove it and went to Telus instead (and the telus technical support line actually helped him set up his computer so he could dial into it the way he wanted to).
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I vote Telus, I've had them for oh, about 4 years now and no problems, technical or customer service. I heard about all the trouble people were having with Telus, but I never experienced it first hand. I get 5 hours of dial-up a month, which is nice when I travel, and the webmail works well.
I've never had Shaw, but those I know complain of the slow down when too many neighbours are on. Maybe that's changed with the "Extreme"? I also don't have cable TV, so I think I would have to get that as well if I wanted to use Shaw... too much money. Really I don't know much about Shaw, Telus has never given me a reason to want to switch.
They Both Suck! I Use shaw though and i still exceed my upload/download limit by far. They gotta Cater to the Leeches like me better.