Uphill slope and downhill slope.
Is this on the roadtest?
Uphill slope and downhill slope.
Is this on the roadtest?
Hmmm... I dunno if it's on the test. But in real life I park it so that it's not tilted at a dangerous angle, and I put it in 1st so that it doesnt move and cause the kickstand to fold in.
Doesn't it say so in the book?
Here's some advice I got from about.com:
Parking a bike where the lean on the sidestand is going DOWN a hill could make the bike unstable and make it difficult to upright from its sidestand. You may want to park near a 35 degree angle to the curb.
Parking a bike where the lean on the sidestand is going UP a hill could make the bike easy to tip over. You will need to park closer to a 45-50 degree angle from the curb.
You will need to try various positions on a hill depending on whether the hill is going up or down. Satisfy yourself that the bike remains stable, is easy to lift off its sidestand and is easy to ride away.
Parking on a steep downhill slope is trickier, IMO, especially if you're on the short and feeble side (like me) and have a heavy bike. It can be pretty difficult to back the bike in so that the rear tire is against the curb, going against the grade, while parking it...and then I'd be worried about the bike creeping forward. You could just pull in and sit the front tire against the curb, but once again, when you go to leave you'll have to back it up the hill. You might be able to sort of cut sideways across your lane, then back the bike so that it's facing up the hill, and then when you're leaving you can use engine power to pull the bike up and out of the space, but then you're facing the wrong way... so depending on how comfortable you are with tight u-turns on a hill, this may or may not be a good option.
No, they won't ask you to park on a hill on the roadtest. All you have to do is back the bike into a stall in the *flat* parking lot.
Last edited by Antares; 03-28-2005 at 02:18 AM.
Originally Posted by Antares
When backing up should it be in first with the clutch in, or in neutral?
I believe it is up to you, but when I did it, I had the clutch in because I was nervous and forgot.Originally Posted by rJ_
when i park on a hill, i park what i think is stable, stand up and give it a shake test, readjust, and repeat as neccesary
Park with your wheel against the curb.
As for the road test, my girlfriend just took the test and she says that there is no parking on the road test, in maple ridge anyways.
After you've bird-dogged that 'perfect spot', let the drivers behind you know it with a gradual slow-down w/ blinkers blinking etc. If you don't have enough time to bring the traffic behind you to a stop (to let you park), circle around and back again. You're new, you're on a hill, you need time to navigate the ordeal and you need their full attention... and maybe their cooperation.
Once there, keep the bike in 1st w/ the clutch in, knowing you're screwed if you 'pop it' out . But you need the power at-hand while you're doing the back-and-forth to get that 'perfect spot/angle'. In / out of neutral is only one more set of things to do while you're concentrating on the angle... and you ought always have power 'ready' instead of 'ready after I do this, that and the other thing'.
Backing into that perfect spot, take time to angle the bike to allow you to get on/off the bike with ease. If you screw up the first attempt, do it again and again until it's right. It'll be a challenge to pull the bike upright from a steep angle if it was already difficult to get it into that angle in the first place. The easier it is to get off the bike once it's shut off (leaving it in 1st gear)... the easier it will be to re-mount the bike later.
Keep an eye on exactly where you're planting your kickstand; if it's planted on an oil spot, or into a road-crack, the bike will do some more parking on its own after you've left .
When you return to your bike, don't be in a hurry to put up the kickstand and start it. It's the fastest way to drop yer bike. Instead, take a walk around your bike to be sure there aren't any dents or bent things hangin' off the bike from a car having hit it while you were away. Before you jump on the bike again, first put your key into the ignition and UNLOCK the wheel. You'd be amazed how many riders don't remember to do this, promptly dropping their bike or rolling into traffic once they sit on it . Get onto your seat, slowly angling the bike back upright, survey the angle of your escape route, start the bike (in neutral)... shift and sail out of your berth slowly - keeping an eye on traffic all the while. Wait until you're perfectly clear to leave your spot; a bike's quick entry into traffic is easily missed by drivers. What's the hurry?
Newer riders are better off not pulling U-turns fresh from a steep hill-side parking spot, no matter how much time it might save. You need to be fully in control of your bike & skills to pull it off even under the very best conditions. IMHO, if you're not 100% comfortable pulling away from the curb in the direction you've chosen, maybe you're heading off in the wrong direction to start with? . The best test of your hill-parking readiness is your hill-riding... stopping and starting on hills amid traffic. If you're not fully comfortable with it, maybe not yet mastered the clutch on a hill at a stop light [?], wait until you do before tackling parking on that same grade hill. Better yet: try hill parking on lower-grade hills first and work/learn your way toward the steeper ones. That perfect spot, closest to where you're going, on that very steep hill... ain't always so perfect even for the most experienced riders.
Even after you've become a champion hill-side parker, there's actually good reason to avoid steep-hill parking altogether. It happens to also be where many CAR drivers have the least control of their cars - especially new drivers in standard-shift cars ...sliding backward, lurching forward. Why choose hill-side parking that -even after you've parked- is as stressful (in worrying about your bike) as the effort of parking there in the first place?
Summarized: Park on hills as above described... and then avoid them.
Last edited by SkipTkt; 04-03-2005 at 11:47 PM.
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