Rides like that should be illegal. wait, maybe it is Thanks alot guys, now i need to get a new back tire. actually it now closely resembles a racing slick. if that doesnt speak volumes about our trip i dont kow what does. great bunch of experienced riders to go with. just a great adventure altogether, too many details to list. something you'll have to experience yourself. Dont miss the next one. hopefully i didnt cause you guys any permanent hearing loss if you were following me i think nick was pretty safe from that .