It's interesting to see how the musical chairs plays out each year.
I wonder if Gibernau would be competetive on a Ducati.
hmm next season is going to be really intresting...
ducati made offers to rossi and hopkins last year, as well as gibernau. maybe having landed none of them has a hidden meaning?
telefonica moved with gibernau from suzuki to honda. he could ride a proton kr and still be in telefonica livery.
and i still say hayden shouldn't be in motogp.. yet. honda should have gave him a year in 125, a year in 250 to learn the tracks and how the big boys play. well, that would put him in gp as of this year, as a rookie. and not for hrc, but a satellite team. hayden should be on a camel bike, biaggi should just hang it up, gibernau should be factory. kato, if he was still alive, could probably have been factory by now too.
On a related note
I think Gibernau is a whiner, he might be a talented rider, but he doesn't play the "game" very well, I find him always blaming the machine and/or his team. As aposed to Hayden and Rossi they are always positive about thier team and the machine, but find ways to gently mention that they had a hard time with setup or just weren't on the ball themselves.
I think this makes a difference when it comes to signing thier riders.
Afterall the teams are basically in it for the exposure, and if thier rider is knocking thier own team/technology... that ain't good...
I wonder if this is going to pose a problem for Gibernau in the future, and signings...
gibernau is definately the paul tracy of motogp. then again, biaggi is too. oh gawd, paul tracy triplets?
Couldn't agree with you more, Doug. Paul Tracy is such a dork.
Cry in the dojo, laugh on the battlefield
Sparring speed is a matter of simple physics:
The height of your flight is inversely proportionate to the mass of your ass.
and to think, tracy is going to be racing asscar next year for sure. "open wheel for life, never irl, always champ car", is going taxi cab racing.
ok, to keep on topic, if rossi leaves motogp to go to f1 like the rumour mill is constantly saying, he will be only the second rider to successfully start driving. and gibernau may win a championship. maybe he will have to split the trophy with biaggi though. and hayden will get win #2
I honestly feel that Gibernau would be no more competitive than Capirossi on the Ducati, who's been riding his ass off for three seasons (the only rider to win on the bike, so far) to make the bike consistently competitive.Originally Posted by Crabalocker
"When in doubt, FLAT OUT!"
The Ducati actually was fairly competetive for a little while. What happened, was it developmental, or was it just that the japanese kept raising the bar?Originally Posted by ZoomaFoo
I think they invested too much effort in making the bike powerful, making it more difficult to ride. I don't think any manufacturer will be consistently fast on the Bridgestones unless they (BStone) make some big improvements. The Stones seem to be good at a few tracks--like the upcoming Motegi circuit.Originally Posted by Crabalocker
I don't know that Gibernau, or anyone else, can beat a healthy, happy Rossi. But his chances of being champion would drop from slim to none if he rides the Duc.
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It may not help you avoid the problem,
but it'll end the suspense."
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I think it was a combination of the two. Like Brent said, Ducati had no problems making power in their '03 debut season, but perhaps they thought that was enough and failed to concentrate on improving the rest of the bike as well. Couple that with Bridgestone tires that - while improving - are still playing their own catch-up game with Michelin, and it equals one Italian factory getting left in the dust.Originally Posted by Crabalocker
The Honda and Yamaha were both improved for '04, but I think it was Rossi's ability to get the Yami up to speed so quickly (faster than even he expected) that put Ducati even further behind. At least Honda was able to compete with Rossi, but the Italian brand seemed to be caught with their proverbial pants down.
I think Gibernau has some of that "mental fragility" that Mike Scott talked about in Faster, when referring to Biaggi. Sete gained a huge amount of confidence after winning the '03 South African GP after Kato's death, and he managed to maintain it while proving he could beat Rossi more than a few times. I think those days are over, though. Not only has he been unable to win since Qatar last season, but in post-race news conferences he just wears that unmistakable look of a beaten man. His expression lacks confidence and hope, two things that Loris Capirossi still possesses and things that Rossi will never run out of.
"When in doubt, FLAT OUT!"
Why would Giberneau want to move to a less competitive bike?
It doesn't matter though, he has too many doubts in himself with regards to his ability to beat Rossi.
Work sucks -- let's go riding!
Then he always has a great excuse.Originally Posted by KatRider