how much does it come up to on average?
how much does it come up to on average?
from 80 bucks to over 1000. bullshit charges.
freight is generally set by the factory for delivery from the warehouse (usually in toronto) to the dealer. the bikes are landed here, shipped to toronto, to be shipped back here. go team!
funny thing, chrysler cars are built just outside of toronto, and the dealers were still charged over $300 for freight to move them all of 25 miles for the local toronto area.
pdi, well, that number can vary. and it's probably just a lackey building your bike anyways.
don't forget doc fees in there too. that's a whole other debate
ok, so if a "local dealer 'A' " has a new bike advertised at a certain price "plus freight,pdi, other charges and taxes' how much should one prepare oneself for, excluding the taxes? more or less.
get the out the door price. the price before freight/pdi means very little. a buddy of mine got a great quote from a local dealer before freight/pdi and they just jack up the latter to make the margin back.
Originally Posted by Jester666
best thing to do is ask what their charges are. all dealers differ.
Sales team = charges (cost of bike and sales commission/paperwork)
Shop team = charges (makin' sure your shit is dialed)
Finance team = charges (makin' sure your shit ass credit gets bought/paperwork)
Is this NEWS to people or something? People buy cars or bikes every couple of years and do you forget the process?
Do you work for free?
Ive never purchased a brand new bike from a dealership before, hence Im not 100% on the process.Originally Posted by cosworth
Also, I havent said a single word wether these charges are justified or not, I simply dont know.
I was looking to find out the average numbers out of curiosity.
your reply was not very helpfull at all.
Originally Posted by cosworth
doc fee is acceptable cuz that guy needs to get paid- 100-150$
pdi fee is acceptable depending on the bike- 150-250$ at the most for any fuckin bike/quad/dirtbike
and freight is usually included in the cost of the bike at most places so it should be in the sticker price.
the main bitch here is that each fuckin shop deals with these fees differently and why? cuz you look like you can be taken for an $800 pdi? how bout $300 for doc fees? paying for freight cuz you look like a fuckin sucker-freight should be included in the price and not just a fuckin number pulled out of some asshole's head that day cuz you look like you'll fuckin take it. no one would bitch if these fees were a norm at every shop and they were reasonably correct but when someplace is charging 400 bucks to uncrate an R6 which takes 45 minutes at the most and paying some guy a tad over minimum then i see a fuckin problem. on a sidenote i just bought a drz from modern recently and took it home in the crate. their fees were reasonable and aaron gave me a sweet deal on it- maybe cuz i work at another shop or maybe cuz that's how he deals but there was no bullshit on either side and the deal was done in minutes. hopefully you'll have the same luck with other dealers.
Out the door price. Forget everything else. Just get the out the door price - freight, PDI, doc fees, bribes, payola, mardi gras beads - the bottom line of getting your shit out the door. Shop and compare from this price only.
And *always* be prepared to walk from a deal until your name is signed on the bottom line.
My dad was about to buy his bike from one shop, until they told him freight/PDI would come to $800. He told them there was no way he was paying the same charge for a four hundred pound bike as he did for a full-size pickup truck and beelined for the door.Originally Posted by ssblade
Soo......he made his way to Modern, dealt with Aaron also, and came home with a new bike. The End.on a sidenote i just bought a drz from modern recently and took it home in the crate. their fees were reasonable and aaron gave me a sweet deal on it- maybe cuz i work at another shop or maybe cuz that's how he deals but there was no bullshit on either side and the deal was done in minutes.
Just talk your way out of the freight and pdi. They'll do it if you're a nice little customer. I didn't pay either on my bike, because I was an employee, phew! It would have been I think $600 for them combined though. And I managed to get the salesmen to knock the freight and pdi off of my new car when I bought it from Jonker. And that was $1195.
What makes you think my reply was directed at you? There are other people reading this thread.Originally Posted by Jester666
The answer you were looking for is in the second post.
All they did was lower the gross profit on the vehicle and transfer the payment to the business office. All you did was get a lower sale price.Originally Posted by StagnantWaterPo
I was told the "freight," charges on cars included all the freight charges to get the parts to the assembly plant, in addition to getting the assembled vehicle to its destination.
Dunno if I'm buying that 'splanation though.