Wow From the angle of the last vid it looks like the crash happened on an empty part of the air field and thankfully not into a crowd of people.
ya looks like he managed to bank the aircraft at the last second, in the one camera, he comes close enough so see the friggin rivets!
my russian is shitty, but I think that's what they're talking about.(i think)
that the pilot knew he's going down, and had a split second to direct the plane away from people.
I couldn't get wether he managed to eject or not.
Better translation anyone??
Looks like the pilot went down with the plane.
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This is not Russian they are speaking
They had some confusion because spectators were on the different side of the airfield at this flight compare to the last one at a different airport so the 1 or 2 seconds confusion caused them to be lower then expected and they ended up landing on their heads.
The footage is cut but they had some problem with the angle during the exhibition and could not pull out of the maneuver probably because of the 1 or 2 second delay looking for spectators.
That is what I get, but the frottage is cut in a few spots so not all the words makes sense as they begin mid sentence.
Originally Posted by F4Rush
those crazy european airshows - you can see the pilot eject on the last few frames (look for the chute up high)
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Wow, amazing footage.
Too bad Viktor Pugachev was not flying it. He would've pulled a cobra and saved it.
When I was taking the Aircraft Maintenance course at BCIT, we went to the airshow. There was a Mig21 there, and it was a POS. The quality of the workmanship was crap, there were threads showing through the tread of the tire, and the general impression was one of a flying trap.
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On 2002 July 27, 84 people were killed and over 100 injured at an airshow in Sknyliv (Скнилів) airport near Lviv, Ukraine. A Ukrainian Air Force Sukhoi Su-27 aircraft crashed during an aerobatics presentation. It was the world's worst airshow disaster to date.
The aircraft, flown by two experienced pilots, was reported to have lost power before clipping trees, at which point the crew ejected. The plane hit a stationary aircraft and burst into flames, then slid into the crowd of spectators. Both pilots survived with injuries.
Ukrainian president Leonid Kuchma publicly blamed the military for the disaster and dismissed the head of the air force, Volodymyr Strel'nykov. The defense minister Volodymyr Shkidchenko sent in his resignation, but it was rejected by Kuchma.
Experts supposed the following causes of the accident, in the order of importance:
* violation of the flight plan by crew or ground co-ordinator
* improper flight plan: particularly, mistaken correlation between the flight and spectators' zones
* piloting error
* technical failure
* fueling the plane with an excess amount of kerosene, causing the Su-27 to become too heavy and not agile enough to complete the manouver
It should be noted that a Russian Sukhoi Su-35 prototype fighter jet (a thrust vectoring derivative of the Su-27) has previously crashed under surprisingly similar conditions during the Paris Le Bourget air show. That accident happened due to flight plan error, but did not result in any fatalities.
On June 24, 2005, military courts sentenced the two pilots, Volodymyr Toponar and Yuriy Yegorov, to fourteen and eight years in prison, respectively. The court found the two pilots and three other military officials guilty of failing to follow orders, negligence and violating flight rules. Two of the three officials were sentenced to up to six years in prison, and the last official received up to four years. In addition, Toponar was ordered to pay 7.2 million hryvnia ($1.42 million; €1.18 million) in compensation to the families, and Yegorov another 2.5 million hryvna. After the verdict was announced, Toponar said he planned to appeal.
I hope the pilot managed to eject from that. The usual rule is that if your plane is fucked and is within danger of crashing into people, you have to stick with it till the bitter end, or till you can safely eject without killing people... if you have that option.
I was there that year. I talked to the pilots, too... They were all in awe of the sophistication of the F-18, F-16, etc. But when they got in and flew, they out-manoeuvered and out-flew all of the well-built, computer-controlled, american jets. There still isn't an american jet that can do the cobra manoeuver without flaming-out the engines.Originally Posted by flyfishinwoman
They're built roughly, but they're built tough too. They'll take the beating.
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Their philosphy of the Russian jets is for short term readyness, they werent meant for the long term unlike American planes.
Their philosphy is simplicity and durability.
The Russians make their planes able to survive in the arctic/forest. If they were to have the latest and greatest technology and something were to go wrong, it would mean a downed aircraft in Siberia for a while. Thats why they had vacuum tubes in their planes for the longest time. Anybody could pull and replace one if they had to.
Legend has it that their radar units are cooled by human consumable alcohol.
But their maintenance practices arent the best however.