Lean angle

1. ## Lean angle

The faster you can turn your handlebars, the less lean-angle ultimately needed in the corner.
Why is that? Is he only talking about the inital turn-in point?

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3. Originally Posted by coolio
Why is that? Is he only talking about the inital turn-in point?

I know this has nothing to do with this thread that you have started .... but why do you want a LADIES jacket???? Are you just wanting the jacket in pink?

4. A: Steer the bike as much as you need to make it safely through the corner with YOUR desired lean angle. Your lean angle is so variable through a turn since you and another rider could take a different line through the turn and you never take a turn exactly the same way twice. Less lean angle? A bike can only go through a corner upright if it's going 5kph (not literal). So just push and pull on the bars, hang off a comfortable amount and take the turn.

B: He wants to take ladies on his bike with gear on.

5. Thats him in his avatar..after the recent operation

6. Interesting...I just found out that hanging off only reduces the lean angle but traction remains the same whether your're hanging off or not.

As an aside if you are "leaning off" thinking it is helping traction, you are mistaken. Lateral cornering forces are unchanged being based on mass, speed and corner radius. If you had an CG at 45 degrees and then "leaned off" far enough to make the bike upright you'd still have an effective lean angle of 45 degrees and be near the limit of traction (1g).

7. Yes but don't be fooled. Hanging off does not mean you're cornering better.

Forget hanging off, the lean angle is determined by speed and apex. You can hang off if you want or just lay it over until your knee hit ground AND fairing.

Dragging your knee is a measure of bike angle (feedback for your brain) and a way to help steer the bike in an extreme corner.

The quoted statement also does not take into account that haning off does lower your center fo gravity and can have a positive impact on the ability for the bike to steer. Minor, but it is there. It's the "mass" part of the quoted equation.

Ride the bike the way you feel comfortable. Lean off a comfortable amount in case you NEED to radically alter the lean angle. It will take less effort for those "oh shit" moments.

8. Are you talking street or track? Street riding: no, "hanging off" will not make i huge difference. Track: just try to match those speeds and use no body english.

Too lean or not too lean? There's probably a bunch of peoeple that are doing it right now thinking it is better when it is not but if you're doing it for the girls, that's cool.

11. Coolio, go buy a book like Sport riding Techniques by Nick Ienatsch or ANY of the other ones that get mentioned regularly and read it, then read it again.
Because you are not getting the meaning of the of the overly fancy shit web sites you are looking at currently!!

Agreed. No matter what anyone types I don't think he gets it.

13. I have passed guys on the track who are so far off the bike, its not funny. Just ride how you feel comfortable.

14. I'll get some books tm. Totally forgot about the books, perfect time for reading too!

15. Originally Posted by coolio
I'll get some books tm. Totally forgot about the books, perfect time for reading too!

Books are only good for so much. I really don't like reading how to ride, I found I went faster taking a race school and playing around.

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