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    Question TDi owners step forward?

    I am lookin at gettng a new car. Ive established that a TDi is the best all around vehicle for what I am going to use it for. HOWEVER, I have heard horror story upon horror story about the VW's since they started making them in mexico. Consumerguide rates the 2000-2004 VW jetta and golf as one of the consistantly worst vehicles on the road for reliability but they don't really specify anything about diesels. Noone else makes a diesel car except for smartcars (which are fugly beyond words). I can't find any concrete evidence on specifically the TDIs being crappy or visa versa.

    I was wondering those of you who own jetta or golf TDi's ...

    what year do you own? and what issues have you had? were they covered by warranty? Im thinking 02-04.

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    um I don't own a tdi, but I do have a good friend with one. Beware of windows that go down and don't come back up..(in fact they smash sometimes.) thats a fairly common VW problem. As well look for a TDI that's not been "lady" driven. There's a problem with the intake or something and if it hasn't been driven HARD there's an excessive amount of carbon buildup..so bad the car loses tons of power.. fairly big job to fix too, when buddy got his car back he was amazed at how much power the car actually had! apparently this problem is well known, the mechanics he dealt with were aware of this, and said that some are fixed under an "unofficial recall" type deal..
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    Re: Window problem.. not a big deal.. VW knows about it (and it sucks if it happens to you) , but they'll also replace the window regulator.

    TDI's have a ridiculous amount of power and can even be tuned to have a lot more. (for what they are anyways).

    They do get a bad rap for having bad electronics.. but I think the fuel economy out weighs that... does for me anyways.

    I don't have a TDI, but would seriously consider it for a replacement to my SUV gas guzzler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo
    Beware of windows that go down and don't come back up..(in fact they smash sometimes.) thats a fairly common VW problem.
    This problem has been fixed, for more than 3-4 years now. If luck has it you end up with one that hasn't had it fixed, it will be covered by VW, even if the car is out of warranty.

    TDis are solid engines. Should you have any problems, they will most likely be electrical, rather than mechanical. I've never personally owned a TDi, but a close friend has a Passat, and couldn't be more pleased with it.
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    The Golf's and Jetta's are made in both Brazil and Mexico. Try to get the one from Brazil as they have a bit more power when put on the dyno. I learned this about 2 years ago and not sure if the case is the same today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamantium
    Re: Window problem.. not a big deal.. VW knows about it (and it sucks if it happens to you) , but they'll also replace the window regulator.

    TDI's have a ridiculous amount of power and can even be tuned to have a lot more. (for what they are anyways).

    They do get a bad rap for having bad electronics.. but I think the fuel economy out weighs that... does for me anyways.

    I don't have a TDI, but would seriously consider it for a replacement to my SUV gas guzzler.
    Yeh im thinking I am going to buy one because of the low end torque, and fuel ecnomony that is amazing for those levels of low end torque is unmatched by any other car. So far so good guys, window problems which appear to be solved. electrical problems plague them as well which is a lot worse than mechanical problems I find you end up paying a LOT of diagnosis time on eletrical problems as opposed to mechanical... any TDi owners out there wanna give some input??

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    TDi = wise investment.
    Yah, you'll pay more, but it'll make up for it if you keep it for awhile.

    Get as 'new' of a model as you can afford. Diesel engines/injection systems are going through dramatic changes in design, and there have been some hiccups along the way.

    PROS:
    TDi mileage = excellent.

    TDi power = pretty decent stock, and can easily be modified for more, with KEEPING the decent mileage.

    TDi longevity = excellent as long as you do regular maintenance.

    Decent resale value - yeah, it'll depreciate, but not as fast as a gasser.

    Get a standard transmission if you are so inclined - less hassles.


    CONS:
    Kinda stinky & noisy.

    If something actually does break, (engine related) it can get pretty $$$ very quickly. Diesel pumps/injection systems are complex, and generally need scan-tools and qualified technicians to make proper repairs.

    The window issue and such is not a big deal, lots of cars have finicky window tracks/motors that cause some headaches.

    My 2 cents.
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    Yeh it would defenantly be standard transmission, no questions about that.

    Stinky, Noisy ...newer ones are not as bad as older and im not too worried about that.

    Does anyone know if VW subcontracts out somone to make their diesel engines or anything crazy like that? I know a lot of engine companies get other companies to make parts and such, just wondering if there is another company I can reasearch to make sure Im making the right decision buying a VW TDi...Its hard to really research these cars when sooo many different critics give VW a terrible name, and Ive know lots of people with NIGHTMARE VW stories...problem is, I can't trace down any that are diesel related :shrugs:

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamantium
    They do get a bad rap for having bad electronics.. but I think the fuel economy out weighs that... does for me anyways.
    Hmmm. My boss owns one. He says he carries a full set of bulbs in his car. Never know when he needs to replace one or more. I believe the car is 5 or 6 years old. He's lost count on how many times **every** bulb has been replaced.

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    Does anyone know if VW subcontracts out somone to make their diesel engines or anything crazy like that?
    Well, The VW injection system is designed and developed by Bosch. The VW engine/transmission is manufactured by VW in Germany to my knowledge.

    I know what you are getting at, for example: The GM Duramax diesel is manufactured by Isuzu heavy duty.

    VW is a pretty smart company, and has had MANY years of experience building diesels in Europe. North America is getting the 'trickle-down' technology over here (finally...) as they make progress, and the demand increases.
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    go to tdiclub.com.

    Some people have tuned their cars to the range of 300 ft-lbs and 160 hp, while improving mileage!

    There are some easy mods/ecu changes around the carbon build up in the car.

    Black Sunshine pretty much hit the nail on the head.

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    yeh you know what im talking about, good to know they make their own engine and trannies...thanks for info...

    bulbs galore eh truelies, well thats nothing major. minor crap like that I can handle, afterall right now im driving an eagle talon and i can't even count the number of stupid little things that are wrong with it, nothing major just minor crap.

    thanks shervin, good site!!

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    Don't know if it makes any difference to you, but TDi is actually an Audi design.
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    naw not much difference, VW/Audi is certainly not my first choice in car companies, however the fact that I can't get a turbo diesel car any other way sort of limits my options. =o

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