What did you guys have to slalom?

Thread: What did you guys have to slalom?

1. What did you guys have to slalom?

I got back from my psudo MST with the instructor and she explained that the slalom cones are set at the width of a parking lot space.

Thats about the length of my bike...

I can execute all the other maneuvers safely and easily, its a walk in the park, but the slalom is NUTS! as a sample of my practice (20 trys) i only manged to not hit the cones 3 times. Other times i knocked a cone over, or didn't turn hard enough or didn't balance right and couldn't make it through the last one. Was the instructor misguided or something because this is loopy! she said they might extend the cones space by about a foot maximum... Well i don't have TOO much trouble doing that bu its still the hardest thing to perform in the whole test

Book says slalom is set at twice the length of the bike, Instructor says that the books inaccurate...

blarg thats it tomorrow im headed to ICBC to confirm the slalom.

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3. What we learned on the ART course:

Look at the furthest cone away from you, but above it (about 4 feet above it). Drag your rear brake and make the bike S between the cones, not zig-zag. The motion should be smooth. I can't remember how far apart they were when i did my MST, but I think they were a little further apart than a bike length.

If you have time to practice, try leaning away from the direction your bike is leaning (ie you're turning right, lean left). This will allow you a greater bank angle, allowing the bike to turn tighter. It's the opposite of what you're trying to do in high speed corners (ie lean WITH the bike to conserve bank angle)

edit: look at this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_1BJ-RgcU1I - see how they're leaning away from the bike in those tight corners?

4. Originally Posted by SkydiveSonic
What we learned on the ART course:

Look at the furthest cone away from you, but above it (about 4 feet above it). Drag your rear brake and make the bike S between the cones, not zig-zag. The motion should be smooth. I can't remember how far apart they were when i did my MST, but I think they were a little further apart than a bike length.

If you have time to practice, try leaning away from the direction your bike is leaning (ie you're turning right, lean left). This will allow you a greater bank angle, allowing the bike to turn tighter. It's the opposite of what you're trying to do in high speed corners (ie lean WITH the bike to conserve bank angle)

edit: look at this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_1BJ-RgcU1I - see how they're leaning away from the bike in those tight corners?
Those guys are AMAZING! Slow-speed techniques like these are tricky without a ton of practice and experience. Situations that arise that demand these types of maneouvres can happen anytime/anywhere on the street. Definitely a goal of mine to practice these avoidance techniques. You never know when you might need to employ them.

5. Just go to the dollar store and buy some cones, use a school parking lot and practice.

got the technique down

but squeezing my bike through the cones is really hard.

edit id also like to point out that there can be no doubt those guys are skilled

they are slaloming twice the length of their bike.

also what kinda situation can you think of that requires a low speed slalom? I mean ive already had a few times where low speed u turns on hills and manuvering through parking lots, slow rides

I've had uses for all of that

but a low speed slalom?

7. Originally Posted by Qjet
got the technique down

but squeezing my bike through the cones is really hard.

edit id also like to point out that there can be no doubt those guys are skilled

they are slaloming twice the length of their bike.

also what kinda situation can you think of that requires a low speed slalom? I mean ive already had a few times where low speed u turns on hills and manuvering through parking lots, slow rides

I've had uses for all of that

but a low speed slalom?
When traffic is not moving on a bridge

8. It's not about practicing for real world events. It's about showing that you have control over your motorcycle.

9. I actually found the salom (MST) pretty easy. I just practiced right on the "testing ground" before doing the MST. Salom was the easiest part for me. Of course, come test time, I knocked one cone down with my foot -.-...

Easiest way is to look ahead, not directly down. Treat your bike like a bicycle, turn the wheel where you want to go, and lean in the opposite direction (turning right, lean left) to balance the bike.

10. Originally Posted by L8R
When traffic is not moving on a bridge
thats the high speed slalom

11. Originally Posted by Qjet
thats the high speed slalom
I must be getting old and hopefully wiser.

12. The slalom should be about 1.5 times the length of your bike, not a fixed 3m (standard parking spot width). It's different depending on what bike your ride.

;D

13. Originally Posted by BigRed
The slalom should be about 1.5 times the length of your bike, not a fixed 3m (standard parking spot width). It's different depending on what bike your ride.

;D
ok see now this is the first person to say something other then i need to practice more

I was slaloming my bikes length
but the actual space the slalom is set at is determined by the turning radius of your bike. Which usually works out to 1.5 times the length of the bike

in otherwords thanks for the tip but i can do that with my eyes closed

I popped down to ICBC right now and i just finished talking with the tester, Apparently my instructor was being a little overzealous.

In addition the tester offered me to practice on the MST course, so ill know if ill be ready or not. Sweet deal.

14. Originally Posted by Qjet
ok see now this is the first person to say something other then i need to practice more

I was slaloming my bikes length
but the actual space the slalom is set at is determined by the turning radius of your bike. Which usually works out to 1.5 times the length of the bike

in otherwords thanks for the tip but i can do that with my eyes closed

I popped down to ICBC right now and i just finished talking with the tester, Apparently my instructor was being a little overzealous.

In addition the tester offered me to practice on the MST course, so ill know if ill be ready or not. Sweet deal.

From what I learned at riding school keep your head up at EYE level above the cones try looking as far ahead as possibe (parallel to the ground). The trick is keep your eyes up and as soon as you see the nearest cone dissapear from your peripheral vision its time to turn the handebar! do the same for the second cone in the opposite direction ect. I'm a noob and it works really well just have faith

15. As someone has already posted, cones should be 1.5x your bike's length apart. Bring a tape measure if you're concerned they're screwing with you. And if the rider's manual says 2x, then demand to speak to a manager after your test is over. Point out the 2x, and ask why they're testing to 1x.

I don't know many riders who could slalom in 1x the length of their bike. I might make a couple of cones, but i'd be murdering the rest of them.

16. Originally Posted by Qjet
I was slaloming my bikes length
but the actual space the slalom is set at is determined by the turning radius of your bike. Which usually works out to 1.5 times the length of the bike
I usually just say 1.5 times the bike length because some people don't know how to measure the turning radius properly.

;D

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