my thoughts on speeding..

# Thread: my thoughts on speeding..

1. ## my thoughts on speeding..

I think speeding on a motorcycle should carry less weight in the MVA then speeding in a car… Why? Because statistically; you’re much less likely to hurt someone else on the road and much more likely to hurt yourself. Aren’t tickets issued in the name of “Public safety”? I would argue that they do not pose the same risk to the “public.”

Think about it, how often do we hear of a motorcycle killing the occupants of another vehicle – not very often, I mean sure it does happen, but to put the penalty in the same league as someone speeding in say a full-size SUV is a bit of a stretch.

Its not only common sense it’s a proven scientific fact that any 10th grade physics student could tell you. We can calculate the energy of an impact, essentially its lethality by taking into account the mass of the vehicle as well as the speed.

For example lets take a 4000lb SUV traveling at 100kph

The net energy of that equation (without getting into all the scientific mumbo jumbo) would be 4000 times 100 =

400 000 units of “killing force”

Now a motorcycle traveling at 100 kph that weighs only 450 lbs with the rider

45 000 units of “killing force” almost a 10 fold difference!

So by my calculations bikes should be able to legally do the speed limit times 10 to make up for this disparity

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3. Yeah... you go ahead and bring that evidence with you to your next court date.

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.....that was a good one.

5. Logic and common sense will never have any pull in this system, it is quite obvious that the police are being used as speed tax collectors and we have no choice but to play our role in the big game. Pick your moments and your places, and it isn't that bad out there. Anyone who gets nailed for foolishness in town limits has no-one to blame but themselves.

6. Um, was there sarcasm intended in this post?

If not, I can't begin to point out the flaws in your thinking ...

For starters, Public Safety is only part of the equation (and hey, guess what - you are part of the public these laws are trying to protect) but there is also the cost of an accident - medical care, work crews to clean up, LEO to investigate - you wanna pony up the fees for those if you cause an accident?

And do you wanna sit for an hour in traffic cause some speeding biker crashed his bike on the #1?

What if speeding motorcycle dude loses control on the S2S, slides into the oncoming lane, 4000lb SUV in on coming lane swerves to avoid bike, hits another car killing occupants. Does the biker get a full fine for causing that one?

How many units of "killing force" does it take kill a pedestrian crossing Broadway?

Are you honestly saying a 450lb vehicle doing 600Km/hr is about the same as a 4500lb vehicle doing 60km/hr

If you were to argue a bike can safely handle good road conditions at a faster speed than the average SUV, then I'd say you have a half decent argument ... increasing the limits, or reducing fines for bikes based on less "killing power" is a half baked argument.

Again, if you are being sarcastic, I apologize.

If this is your logic while riding a bike, I'm a little scared.

7. tongue in cheek, i dont think we should be allowed to go faster but i do think at speed they pose less of a risk to the general public and that police should spend less time chasing around guys on bikes and targeting the "real" public safety threats.

8. Ah, well, fair enough.

I thank you for at least getting me to use my noggen to reply

9. Step 1. Buy a totalled bike from the wrecker.
Step 2. Put the bike on a rear stand in the middle of the road.
Step 3. Find a cheap car that can hit 200km/h. (Head on closing speed of only 100 + 100)
Step 4. Get someone to videotape.

10. thanks data

1.open dictionary
2.look up sarcasm
3.turn on the part of your seemingly robotic brain that fails to understands these things
4.feel stupid
5.feel stupid some more
6.go away

11. I just want to make sure you are not claiming that bikes cannot kill other road users

Exhibit A

12. Exhibit B

13. Originally Posted by NateR1
thanks data

1.open dictionary
2.look up sarcasm
3.turn on the part of your seemingly robotic brain that fails to understands these things
4.feel stupid
5.feel stupid some more
6.go away
4.feel stupid
5.feel stupid some more -Reading any of the things you post is doing this to me.
6.go away-I better, before your posts make me illiterate.

14. not to mention that even a minor accident can cause serious long lasting damage

15. once again.... twist a guys post around trying to make a funny.... to he must be serious, my God he's going to kill someone !!!!

16. We obviously should outlaw Firefly cars... since they don't have side impact beams and all. Plus the guy on the bike was at least courteous enough to hit the passenger side so he left the driver unharmed. Plus it was probably the driver's fault anyway for pulling out in front of the biker. And I'm all for going Mach 1 on public roads, small alleys and school zones because the sonic boom off the tail of your bike will warn everyone to stay put and let u pass

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