The GTcoupe is gone

[J_Scott]

I guess in the end, what I meant to say is... IT'S a MUSTANG!

I would hope a 19 year old would spend their $8K elsewhere. Not on a vehicle that is the car equivalent to a pair of overalls.

[GSXRKK6]

Originally Posted by J_Scott

I guess in the end, what I meant to say is... IT'S a MUSTANG!

LOL! I can't argue with that.

[Son of Lars]

Ive seen a few M3 diffs pop up for $250. The same medium case 4.10LSD was also used in automatic 325is, and the 325ix used a 4.10LSD as well, but not the clutch type, it has a viscous style. $250-300 is typical.

Thought this video seemed pretty appropriate for this thread. LOL

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...val_699473.htm

[GSXRKK6]

Originally Posted by Son of Lars

Ive seen a few M3 diffs pop up for $250. The same medium case 4.10LSD was also used in automatic 325is, and the 325ix used a 4.10LSD as well, but not the clutch type, it has a viscous style. $250-300 is typical.

Thought this video seemed pretty appropriate for this thread. LOL

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...val_699473.htm

Nice video. There is something to be said for a 900kg E30 M3 with 300hp. I don't know if you remember this, but there was a white Mustang GT that competed in DTM in 1992.

[Son of Lars]

Originally Posted by GSXRKK6

Nice video. There is something to be said for a 900kg E30 M3 with 300hp. I don't know if you remember this, but there was a white Mustang GT that competed in DTM in 1992.

I do remember it, for sure. It was very similar to the black one that spun out in the video.

Personally, I'm a HUGE fan(and owner) of the E24. Watching those 2 big sharks in that vid made me smile.

Al

[kanelupis]

I too am a big fan of the E24. I was looking for a good one when I was buying my 944 a while back. What put me off was the typical wheel well rust and detuned engine (and long shift). Oh how I wanted a Euro Spec gloss black 635Csi in manual with the tail deflector.

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/cto/1310050088.html

[6fiddy]

Originally Posted by 97GSXR600

Mustangs are nothing special.

We know.

Originally Posted by 97GSXR600

To somebody ignorant, a 911 or a Z06 will always be superior cause it carries the name "Porsche" or "Corvette"

You seem to have great difficulty understanding the simplest concepts. What's wrong with you? You just don't freaking get it. Stop trying to wish the Mustang into something it's not or wanting it to be something it was never designed to be.

There's a reason you don't see it included in any "sports car" comparison tests that might include the F430/R8/911/Vette/GTR/370Z/M3/etc. It's NOT a sports car.

IT'S A FUCKING PONY CAR!

Let me say that again, only slower:

IT'S A FUCKING PONY CAR!

[6fiddy]

Now, speaking of pony cars, or any other inexpensive rear wheel drive "sporty" cars (I said sporty, not sports), I'd choose in the following order:

1st (tied): Genesis Coupe V6 or Mustang V8
2nd: Camaro V8
3rd: What ever shit Chysler is making

[6fiddy]

Originally Posted by kanelupis

What i'm saying is that a Mustang with a few mods can be a very good contender against a lot of more expensive cars.

Your reasoning is flawed or you drank from 97GSXR600 & GSXRKK6's koolaid. The three of you seem to qualify a car only after Joe Blow just bolted on a blower/turbo/NOS/etc, replaced the factory suspension, replaced the factory brakes, & on & on & on.

Look, here's your reasoning at its finest. Using said logic of the other joker, the little 4-banger Mitsu must now be regarded as a world beater, right? I mean why buy a new Enzo when this would mop the fucking floor with it?

[GSXRKK6]

Get off it 6fiddy. How many Mustangs have you owned? You pick and choose snippets of people's comments and throw in a bunch of red herrings to top it off.

You seem to be the one who doesn't get it. What kind of experience do you have to back up your smack talk? Son of Lars obviously has the background and he can at least make some compelling arguments. But you are just abrassive.

[6fiddy]

Snippets? I linked to your elaborate post where you argued the merits of a modded Mustang. I then used the little modded Mitsu as a similar example of your "logic". What's up? Did it fly right over your head? Too hard to understand or is it sijmply too hard to accept? I'll say it again: I took your revolving door argument & applied it to some other vehicle. Again, I ask you: is the modded Evo now regarded as a world beater? Yes or freaking no? Should we be informing the automotive press of your big secret that aftermarket parts can make Mustangs faster than Ferraris?

[GSXRKK6]

Originally Posted by 6fiddy

Snippets? I linked to your elaborate post where you argued the merits of a modded Mustang. I then used the little modded Mitsu as a similar example of your "logic". What's up? Did it fly right over your head? Too hard to understand? I'll say it again: I took your revolving door argument & applied it to some other vehicle. Again, I ask you: is the modded Evo now a world beater? Yes or freaking no?

There you go again. Did I ever say the Mustang was a world beater? Yes or no? I'll save you the trouble: NO. Your argument is the fallacy of the straw man. It may be over your head. Look it up.

Why don't you answer my question. Have you ever owned a Mustang?

[6fiddy]

No, I made wiser choices in automobiles. Furthermore, for the final time using your argument, does a person have to own something to have an informed opinion? You ever own a Yugo? What? I didn't hear you. Was that a no? Ok, but I bet you know the Yugo is one huge POS, right?

Thought so.

[GSXRKK6]

Originally Posted by 6fiddy

No, I made wiser choices in automobiles. Furthermore, for the final time using your argument, does a person have to own something to have an informed opinion? You ever own a Yugo? What? I didn't hear you. Was that a no? Ok, but I bet you know the Yugo is one huge POS, right?

Thought so.

Speaking of arguments, yours are full of fallacies. In this one you throw in a red herring. The point of whether or not it is common knowledge that a Yugo is or is not reliable has nothing to do with the points I very clearly made about Mustangs in post 13. Using this technique you try to cover up your admitted lack of first hand experience and knowledge.

In 1989 you could pick up a brand new LX notchback for $11,999 plus tax. That is less than $18,500 in today's money. With about $1000 worth of modifications it was quicker than a Lamborghini Countach, Ferrari 328 or 911 Turbo. It was amazing to be a mere mortal and be able to experience acceleration on par with, or superior to, the top supercars of the day.

Can you think of any new car that you could put in your garage for $20,000 that would be as quick as a Gallardo or F430?

And they were very reliable cars. The T5 had a reputation for eating itself, but that was because people would powershift with the stock shifter. This would cause the clutch fork to bend and that would be the beginning of the end. The very easy fix was a B&M Ripper, or similar, which would run you around $100.

The short wheelbase also made for lively handling. And while you may think it handles like crap, I see it a different way. When you have an extremely high handling envelope, like on a Nissan GT-R, you can never really explore those limits on the street. When you have a lower limit you can play quite a bit more. You get to experience understeer/oversteer, effects of throttle on steering, drifting etc at a much lower speed. In short, it is fun.

The other great thing about the Mustang was the EEC-IV. You could do a wide variety of modifications and the computer would adjust itself. So the do-it-yourself types were able to fiddle around, learn about fuel injection and tune their own vehicles. The performance parts aftermarket really got a HUGE boost from those days.

Believe it or not, due to the gear ratios in top gear you could even have good fuel economy. I drove my '87 notchback to Prince George and netted 8.5L/100km. Not too shabby, imo.

And why do you think they weigh too much? They were quite light, with basic models coming in under 3000 lbs. That is less than a new VW GTI.

Whether you like them or not there is no denying they played an important role in the performance car movement. They are quick, fun to drive, reliable, easy to maintain and parts are cheap. Add to that the plethora of aftermarket support and you come up with a great car for the driving enthusiast.

[SWanime]

Wow it's like an episode of the View now.