there's 2016 STD R1 models that are still sitting in dealership floors, there's several reasons for this. I would not touch
a '15/'16 R1M with a ten foot pole. Yamaha even killed the R1S for 2019, it backfired on them. Became a costly option.
IMHO they're asking way too much for them up here. not worth the hassle, fvck 'em :laughing :flip
next to no real updates since 2015 and yet the thing goes up $1k in MSRP every year? WTF, you gotta be shitting me.. Yamaha lost the plot.
hence why i decided to do some work on the R1, should be good for 180rwhp.. :coffee
FML! I just started reading a few threads on the R1 forum LOL!!!! You were right!!
R1s which had that happen were stockers, one of 'em only had headwork / ama cams.. They've also gone as far as saying the
bottom ends were ALL stockers.. AND then there is the little details that ALL OF THEM broke in the EXACT SAME SPOT!!
There are conspiracy theories among conspiracy theories but how the fvck can anybody blame EDR over stock engines blowing up?
it wasnt just EDR either, as you can see on the forum there are threads after threads of busted crankshaft bearings and of
course the end result is the same, engine goes boom! The most common seems to be a spun #1 PISTON crank bearing. :laughing
i believe these pics were of one that had seen some track miles as i know the owner. BUT
I've done the rounds and spoken at length with some of the boys, they all say the exact same thing... they were cruising
at a mild clip on the freeway and then, NOTHING.. YIKES!! i'm not about to blow 20 grand (new std R1 pricing is 21G plus tax) on those odds.
I dont think YAMAHA built a 200HP engine, i think they built a 190HP engine and proceeded to squeeze the most they could out of it.
the crankshaft has holes drilled through it to provide oil, lubrication and it was lightened.. the gearbox parts were also lightened and of course
we all know the entire 2015 R1 lot had to go through a recall.. The end result? the 2016 R1 makes a little less hp than its 'predecessor'
as they likely had to beef up some parts in the process.
There are NO new part numbers for the major parts of the engine, namely those that are blowing up.. Little bits and pieces
here and there were granted new #s but i think its just as a manner of keeping things tight a little longer. No way are they nearly
as reliable as my own 2009 R1 :coffee
Wondering if the same issue killed Williams Dunlop?
The new BMW would be a beast! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElM9PQxIQn8&t=59s
Racking my memory. Can't recall..............guessing $12K plus all the shit. I think the 750 was like $10,500. I guess if you do a future cost calculation @ 4%, that $12K becomes $20,780, so I guess that is fair. Still seems cheaper back then though
you're not alone in your opinion of the BMW, but get in line. I was told at the show by a person who would know that they had TWO DOZEN deposits in hand at that point, Friday, first day of the show, way back in January. and almost all of them were the M model. and half of those were from people who had M class BMW cars, and were 'complementing' the car with the bike... who says branding doesn't work!
about how great the stupid thing is.. That is, great if it hasnt blown up YET! :coffee
i dont geddit, and yes you are correct 25k plus tax for an R1M!!!! i'm guessing the 3-4k increase in price will pay
for the shortfall resulting from having to replace every fvcking gearbox in the planet :laughing
you see how fvcking clean those pistons are? thats because the stupid thing only had 2800 miles on its odo :tredmill :rant
shit-tonne of smoke and BOOM.. yep, chances are related to the crank :coffee
But i've also heard of others getting deals up here around the same time, like 12.5k tops :D
in just a few years every damn bike out there is going for over $20k ..
for the 1st couple of years we all kinda blew our loads seeing all this gadgetry and big time horsepower and we 'thought it was worth it'.
then of course you realize a couple years later prices keep going up and all you get is BNG, same as before..
no thanks, a left over ZOOK goes for 14k, a 3-4 year old R1 still on the floor goes for 16k plus plus plus... FVCK OFF. no really, FVCK OFF..
clearly its possible to still manufacture this technology and then some, for less