[J_Scott]

MCC seems to have a good head on their shoulders. No bullshit, just an honest answer.

 

[J_Scott]

Funny that is the same position BCCOM has yet you all choose to ignore that. I have sat as a founding director for 4 years on that board and actually helped draw up that statement.

Adele

Nope, BCCOM supports the notion that full-face helmets cause neck injuries. THAT's why we think your organization is full of fucking idiots.

 

[J_Scott]

BCCOM supports fact, do you know MCC's stand? I do. Do you really have to be so obnoxious? I guess for people that don't know the facts that is the only way they can attempt to get their point across in such a childish manner.

Answering your questions one at a time here:

Do I know MCC's stand? I guess not. Are they run by a bunch of assless chapped wearing labotomized street rats like BCCOM, if so, I guess they agree with you.

Do I have to be so obnoxious? Yes, when your false information makes all riders look like fools.

I may not know the FACTS like you do. But I know for a FACT that if any rider was going to KNOWINGLY involve themselves in a crash, they'd wear a full face helmet.

I will continue to call you and everyone who uses the "Full Face helmets cause neck injuries" excuse for not wearing one, an idiot without apology; and I challenge anyone, including your hot-shot lawyer to prove to me that they're unsafe.

 

[J_Scott]

OK, so you don't agree with how BCCOM has addressed the helmet legislation in this province. That's fine. BUT it's not kosher to bash them like this. The manner you're treating Adele and BCCOM is pretty darn close to violating the flaming rules in many cases and has gone over the line in some. Disagree and discuss all you want but any further name calling of the sort seen earlier in this thread will be treated as flaming and will be deleted.

Don't want to be part of BCCOM due to their stand on this or other issues? Fine. But if you actually want to see a change then why not start your own group. Or even easier, produce a sensibly worded petition, get 500 (I think that's the minimum required) or more motorcyclists to sign it and present it to your MP to raise it in provincial Parliment towards having the laws changed.

THAT is how you make a difference. NOT ripping down someone or some group on the 'net like a bunch of lame armchair quarterbacks.

I disagree Bruce, Adele sets herself up for these types of comments. Usually I'd just look the other way. But BCCOM has a dangerous stance on helmet safety, and with the amount of people looking to the internet for advice, this is a good place for us to voice our concerns and opinions.

I admit my conduct towards Adele is nothing but insulting and harsh, but I believe she deserves it. As a spokesperson of an organization I'd think she would be able to articulate her point a little better, and with the kind of respect she's shown me on here, I don't feel bad for my comments.

That said, out of respect to you I will no longer call her "stupid" or "a labotomized street rat", however, as long as they have that stance on Full Face helmets, myself and everyone I know, will think of BCCOM in that way.

FYI, For BCsportbikes to condone those dangerous views on helmets is much more damaging than anything I could possibly say here.

I had respect for BCCOM a while back, but for them to state that it's a fact Full Face helmets cause neck injuries in such a misleading way as to defend their right to wear beanies... well... I leave you to your own conclusion.

Thanks

 

[J_Scott]

Scott, no one here sets themselves up to be called a "fucking idiot." Again as Bruce has stated what the flaming is and there is a community standard that we will enforce here. BCSB is not a rights commitee or a lobbying group (Bruce has stated how you can affect change if you desire) in the motorcycling community. It is a place for all motorcyclists to share their opinions in above all else a respectable manner. If you don't agree, well that's your right but do so in a respectful way.
People are going to be on here a lot more in the next few months as the weather gets worse so let's make the stay enjoyable. We don't like to ban, close threads, or delete posts but we will if we feel it makes the site more palatable for the majority. It's everyone's choice

Yeah, I forgot I called them that. My bad. I just get heated up on that topic.

The irony is, I agree with the point they're trying to make, just not some of the "reasoning" behind it.

I'll be good, I promise. But I'm not one to roll over on matters such as these.

 

[J_Scott]

JScott and Notenoughtime, both of you are missing my point.

Nope Bruce, I got it, no more naughty words or personal attacks. I'm pretty vulgar when it's a passionate topic such as this, but I hope you understand my reasoning.

Roger, thanks for your input, I appreciate it. FYI, I swear less in person.

Adele, I'm not asking for your respect.. What I am asking you for is to represent the community in such a way that makes riders look respectable.

I apologize for making you feel stupid. But my point on the "neck" thing will still stand until you guys admit that full face helmets are safer.

Have a good weekend all of you! Bruce, Steve, Roger and Adele.

 

[J_Scott]

Are u trying to get banned Scott?

No flaming.............."fucking idiots" comment - totally inappropriate.

On a side note, BCCOM has done some great work for the motorcycling community as a whole. Perhaps instead of slamming them in a public forum, you can volunteer your time and work with them to help with changes you want to see.

Kim, did you even bother to read this thread? I apologized THREE times since that post.

And what's the sense in bumping this thread Kim? Just to scold me?