[swassopotamus]

hey guys

so its a 99 gsxr 600. It started about 3 days ago when i was going back from work and it wouldnt start, the battery seemed to be in good condition but when I pressed the starter all there would be is just one click.. and it seemed to draw alot of power(when i was holding the starter switch everything else wen very dim). So i got someone to jump start me and it sounded like the starter was turning and then just stoped, on the third try it started fine and ran fine. next day it wouldnt start, so i was convinced it was the battery ... so i charged it. it ran fine for a bit.. then it sounded like the starter was turning and the bike wouldnt start(not getting fuel?) , so it drained the batter... i let it sit for 30 mins and it started fine.. i charged the battery again .. yestarday it wouldnt start.. at all... again all i would hear is a loud click.. didnt know if it was the starter relay or the starter... so i checked both of them out and they seem to be in good condition..

this morning i noticed a puddle under my bike... smelled alot like gas.. i coudnt see where it was comming from.. when i was taking the fairing off i noticed that i had considerably more oil than i had about a week ago when it was low... when i opened the the oil cap it smelled alot like gassoline. finally i wanted to look at the carborators and i noticed some gas in the engine cover and it was brown in color..

i think it could be a major problem.. any ideas what could be going on...

any help is appreciated

 

[TeeTee]

I'll bet that you have a vacuum operated petcock and that this petcock has a busted diaphragm and it has leaked gas down into the cylinder and it's filling up your oil. Suck or drain some and see if it smells very strongly of gasoline.

Do NOT try to run the bike if it smells like gas. In fact I think you'll be very lucky if you did not bend the rod on the cylinder that connects to the petcock.

On top of that you have a battery issue that sounds like it is due to you either not running the bike often enough and for long enough or the battery is just getting old.

Check that oil for gas right away. If it IS gas then get the bike trucked or towed to a shop for a petcock repair or replacement and a full check of the engine for a possible bent rod or bent valves. Because I'll bet that at least one of those "clicks" was more of a "CLICK" that came from the piston hitting a solid plug of liquid.

 

[lizard928s]

TeeTee is refering to the fact that if one of your cylinders has filled up entirely with gas and hydrolocked and then the starter has enough force to be able to bend or completely break a conn rod,

from what you said sound like this could be very feasible, as if the intake valves are closed the gas would leak out the back of the carb on onto the ground while one cyl would be filling up entirely with gas, hit the starter and thats when the damage comes,

if you ran the bike with alot of gas in the oil though it can wash the oil off the cylinder walls causing cylinder wall damage, and will cause improper lubrication of all bearings which could cause a spun rod bearing.

I can tell you right now that if your oil level has gone up on its own you DO have gas in the oil,

however if you would like give me a shout I will PM you my # and I will come and verify that there is indeed gas in the oil, if there is then it will require a carb rebuild and resync, and an oil change at a minimum.

 

[swassopotamus]

Thanks

Thanks alot guys.. makes total scence.. i looked at the carborators and 3 of them look fine.. one of them is filled half way up with gas but brownish in color...

thanks lizard man for offering to come by.. but no longer necessary...

one last thing.. enginework is beyond what i feel comfortable doing, any suggestions as to which shop i should take it to...

I really apreciate the help

 

[swassopotamus]

sorry make that 2 are fine and 2 are filled with oily gas

 

[TeeTee]

Since you're in Richmond call Bill or Dave at 5thGear. The shop is out on Westminster highway between RMS and Pac Yam in that strip just to the east of Pac Yam and in the same parking lot. 5thGear is second in from the east end. He's got a truck to come and pick up your dead bike.

Hopefully you didn't bend anything inside. Tell them all the stuff you have here and let then know it may have hydrolocked and to test for that.

Or, since they have a 'puter in the shop, have them look up this thread to read all the stuff so far.