I thought that by law, all pumps in Canada with an octane rating under 91 have to contain up to 15% ethanol.
Interesting web sight.
Interesting web sight.
Ethanol free gas
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I've always used shel 91 because it says it's ethanol free. Now for my car I would like to try the e85 but it's not available anywhere.
I believe Chevron 94 is alcohol free at all BC stations.
I think Chevron is one of the only BC stations with 94 left.
It appears so. From that site:I believe Chevron 94 is alcohol free at all BC stations.
Alaska: All stations dispense ethanol-free gasoline.
Alberta: All stations dispense ethanol-free gasoline. Some also dispense E10, so check the pump.
British Columbia: all 94-octane Chevron fuel is ethanol-free.
From my personal experience in the Lower Mainland, only Shell's 91 and Chevron's 94 are ethanol free. If and when I go to Shell, I try to stick to the Shell's that have a dedicated pump for their 91 octane. There will be a decal that indicates whether or not their 91 contains ethanol or not.
+1It appears so. From that site:
Alaska: All stations dispense ethanol-free gasoline.
Alberta: All stations dispense ethanol-free gasoline. Some also dispense E10, so check the pump.
British Columbia: all 94-octane Chevron fuel is ethanol-free.
And be careful if you're tuned to the ragged edge by a US tuner... our fuel is much inferior as to detonation resistence. It took me a couple blown motors and a borderline dangerous run in a $50k motor to realize... I've researched quite a bit on this subject since then. ethanol's bad for older injectors. Not so much on the modern injectors. But it's reduces detonation which is why people run E85's... to run higher boost on forced injected motors. It also produces less energy so you need bigger injectors. On my old car, I had to run 6 x 1800cc injectors to run E85.
I like Chevron fuel because it's "clean", but a year ago we had 94 at Husky stations WITH E10... which was the best fuel to run for highly tuned vehicles. That was my preferred choice.
Shell 91, Esso 91, Petro Canada 91, Chevron 94, are the only province wide brand name fuels in BC without ethanol "enrichment".
Steve
Steve
yay! one is 5 min away from my house!
ESSO 91 & Petro Can 91 :confusedShell 91, Esso 91, Petro Canada 91, Chevron 94, are the only province wide brand name fuels in BC without ethanol "enrichment".
Steve
I always use either of these gasolines and on the pumps they always say 10% ethanol.
Chevron 94 is a plus for no ethanol, not so sure about Shell 91. Have not filled up at Shell for a few years now.
:coffee
So what is the big concern about ethanol?
Besides the deforming bike fuel tanks and possibility of water accumulating if left standing; what are the other issues?
I've been using nothing but US fuel (Shell) for the past 2 years and haven't had an issue. My engines aren't tuned and I go through gas quick enough to make David Suzuki cry.
Besides the deforming bike fuel tanks and possibility of water accumulating if left standing; what are the other issues?
I've been using nothing but US fuel (Shell) for the past 2 years and haven't had an issue. My engines aren't tuned and I go through gas quick enough to make David Suzuki cry.
What other issues do you need? It became a very serious issue for me after the tank on my Guzzi could not be re-installed after holding that crap. Sold the bike.So what is the big concern about ethanol?
Besides the deforming bike fuel tanks and possibility of water accumulating if left standing; what are the other issues?
I've been using nothing but US fuel (Shell) for the past 2 years and haven't had an issue. My engines aren't tuned and I go through gas quick enough to make David Suzuki cry.
I've done the research, confirmed through correspondence with each company, you can use my information or not, don't really care. BTW, Shell, Petro, and Esso all source their gas from the same tap.ESSO 91 & Petro Can 91 :confused
I always use either of these gasolines and on the pumps they always say 10% ethanol.
Chevron 94 is a plus for no ethanol, not so sure about Shell 91. Have not filled up at Shell for a few years now.
:coffee
If 'm blowing through the fuel at a speed that it doesn't have the chance to accumulate water, then it's not an issue.What other issues do you need? It became a very serious issue for me after the tank on my Guzzi could not be re-installed after holding that crap. Sold the bike.
And the Mighty Tuono had a plastic tank that never had any ill effects either. I have seen some posts by Americans where their Aprilia tanks have been buggered, maybe I got lucky.
Can you supply a little more info? I'm running a 1.9l turbo motor at ~300 whp, always run on Chevron's 94, It was tuned on Colorado 91 octane.+1
And be careful if you're tuned to the ragged edge by a US tuner... our fuel is much inferior as to detonation resistence. It took me a couple blown motors and a borderline dangerous run in a $50k motor to realize... I've researched quite a bit on this subject since then. ethanol's bad for older injectors. Not so much on the modern injectors. But it's reduces detonation which is why people run E85's... to run higher boost on forced injected motors. It also produces less energy so you need bigger injectors. On my old car, I had to run 6 x 1800cc injectors to run E85.
I like Chevron fuel because it's "clean", but a year ago we had 94 at Husky stations WITH E10... which was the best fuel to run for highly tuned vehicles. That was my preferred choice.
In what way is our fuel inferior to US fuel?
The tuner was almost salivatiing when I told him I would be running the car on 94, he wanted me to bring a can of it so he could tune on the higher octane fuel for me. I chose to let him tune on 91, thinking this would give me some safety margin.
I only use chevron 94. I don't even think about anything else.
+1. For the bike - absolutely. I fill up BEFORE going to the states for a ride.I only use chevron 94. I don't even think about anything else.
I was running a bored and stroked 4.24L twin turbo fully built motor, tuned on US 91 octane fuel conservatively at 27psi running 912rwhp. Brought the car back to Canada and used chevron 94, and it was detonating. Audible detonation. Had to run water/meth to get it within safety range. This was on a 350z.Can you supply a little more info? I'm running a 1.9l turbo motor at ~300 whp, always run on Chevron's 94, It was tuned on Colorado 91 octane.
In what way is our fuel inferior to US fuel?
The tuner was almost salivatiing when I told him I would be running the car on 94, he wanted me to bring a can of it so he could tune on the higher octane fuel for me. I chose to let him tune on 91, thinking this would give me some safety margin.
On my 2009 GTR, I was running 21psi on stock turbos, monitoring my knock sum. Again tuned using US 91 octane, running 620awhp. no knock logged while using US 91 octane. Then back up here, boom...hitting danger range with knock. Had to detune down to 16psi peak and timing retard by 3 degrees to get rid of knock. Back down to 530awhp. With this car, I tried all the different brands of fuel, and found Husky 94 w/ E10 to be the most knock resistent due to the high octane and Ethanol content.
Supposedly both Canadian and US fuel uses the same octane measurements, and of course octane ratings are measurements of "anti-knock" with fuel grades. That's all on paper. But in reality, above were my experiences, and may other highly modified vehicles I've come across.
Do some research of your own. Check this site out. Keep track of everything in reagards to fuel expenses and which one is better.
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