Yesterday I was coming down Fraser hwy and passed a car and before i knew it I had a cop on my ass , he decided to throw the book at me, gave me a ticket for excessive speeding (was only going 80 or 90 in a 60 or 70 zone) and a driving with undue care what ever that is. Ended up with a $700 ticket.
My question is can they or will they try to take my license away for this?? I have my full class 5/6 license and it my first speeding ticket on the bike.
What do you mean by new drivers premium , what is the definition of "new driver" and this 955+305 is that like points cause on the ticket it was 500 for excessive and 200 for the undue care
So from reading that it sounds like the premium is $320 for 1 Excessive speed conviction. Where do you get the $955 + $305 ?
He didnt even have a radar gun to prove to me how fast I was going , Such BS I think cause I has my D&D pipe on there it sounds way faster then I'm going
what is this "criminal code" stuff? what tickets fall under that category? or is this completely unrelated to driving: if you get charged and convicted of assault do you pay ICBC 900$?
and why do people with drunk driving history get a break? you need two roadsides until youre charged? and then at a way lower rate than the "criminal" section
kinda dumb
plus they say this is just to "offset" the costs for insuring safe motorists? more like a MONEY GRAB for the execs who need a $100k/year raise.
You got an undue and care ticket for passing someone? lol cops are such dicks! Unless you are leaving some details out of ur story?
Dispute it! Go to court in a year and a half once it goes through and ask for a lesser charge as you were passing slow moving traffic and the cop was just being an asshole and gave you a rediculouly heafty fine.
FYI - any combo of two of the following: excessive plus, without due care and attention and without reasonable consideration within a 1 year period = driving suspension.
I dont drive/ride in that area often , and if you even been on Fraser hwy you know the speed limit changes alot. Also I dont ride around looking at my speedo it was after a long stretch of one lane road behind a long line of slow drivers when it came to 2 lanes I just wanted to get in front of a few.
ok i found it out: as of right now the only criminal code conviction under the DRP is DUI conviction... so the drunkards dont really get a break... only the people who cops believe are drunk but arent REALLY drunk get a break.
you can take it to court because it is pretty difficult for the police officer to prove that you were riding with undue care. You can try pleading guilty to speeding
Or talk nice to the judge, show that you are truly sorry. The Judge might lower your fine. Best of all if the officer doesn't show, your ticket is thrown out.
It's worth disputing, just for the premium jump on your insurance alone. I have a strong suspicion that more people are going to be disputing their tickets now.
I recieved a speeding ticket in September. It was $375. It was my first ticket in 5 years. I paid it and thought that was over with. Just like me you will recieve a letter from ICBC Services in a couple of months with an additional $325 fine because of some " drivers premium risk" catagory. Its something new they told me. You get an extra fine with most tickets. My friend recieved one too because of seat belt tickets.
Don't worry ICBC hurt my feelings too.
'undue care' was explained to me (by the cop who just gave me one) as "direct disregard for public or personal safety; either knowingly or unknowingly posing a hazard to yourself and/or those around you via aggressive or otherwise reckless driving"
aka: irrelevant if you were speeding or not, the cop figures you did something stupid.
Folks, here's the section of the Motor Vehicle Act.
144 (1) A person must not drive a motor vehicle on a highway
(a) without due care and attention,
(b) without reasonable consideration for other persons using the highway, or
(c) at a speed that is excessive relative to the road, traffic, visibility or weather conditions.
Now everyone repeat after me, "without due care, without due care, without due care."
"undue care," means you're actually using more care than is required.
sheeeesh. Doesn't anyone read a dictionairy, or the Motor Vehicle Act anymore?:roflmao
Ya the excessive was $480 something and the with out due care was about $196 But the points dont matter cause these two things together in the same year means a suspension of 3-18 months according to
Yaaaa for sure , I for sure thought about it but didnt know the area very well and there was traffic. Plus I didnt think I did something crazy wrong, I just thought it was going to be a regular speeding ticket sure wish I did now , at least then he wouldnt have been able to prove who was riding the bike right lol
The prohibition doesn't take effect until you surrender your license, or it is taken from you. The issue is proof of service of the prohibition. You can drive nicely until you get caught again once the prohibition notice is served.
yet another in a mountain of reasons why highways suck.. they just suckkkkkkkk
square your rubber off and get a ticket.. yuck!!
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