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Society today has become one of interaction amongst people, instead of being one on one equal, now automatically the interaction has been shifted to one of different levels of 'victimhood status'. Victimhood status which includes gender self identification, race, color, creed, religious regional minority. The level of victimhood status varies, and sometimes the collection of victimhood categories you have in life outweighs the severity level of the individual status you are burdened with. Instead of inclusion and true equality, this is separating the population groups. Clearly this is a push from the socialist left, who preach full inclusion. Justin runs hard and steady with this kind of mantra hypocrisy, hence his move to ignore the special and unique capabilities of his Liberal MP's to fill the special and very important roles of Cabinet, instead pull a mega virtue signal for the airheads who voted for him to quivver over.


Regarding SFC Lavalin, this is quite a bit more complicated than the apparent improper interaction of Justin and his pit bulls with the former Attorney General. SFC Lavalin has a very sordid and ugly proven reputation for bribes, threats, entrenched close interaction with horribly repulsive world dictators, bribes, hookers, etc, with [Gaddafi of Libya], and jurisdictions in Canada. Their history with the Federal Liberal party goes back decades. To clarify, they are a nasty fucking group. But of course, Justin's wishes for charges against SCF Lavalin to be dropped include the bullshit that he wants to save Quebec jobs, all while letting 10 fold more jobs in Alberta fly off into the wind. Quebec, being the country's only permanent status welfare state that would last mere days financially If Alberta transfer payments were cut off, needs to be protected, guarded. Justin's political future depends on it. Plus we have the fact that the Quebec Civil Service Pension Plan are heavily invested in SFC Lavalin, and pressure from Civil Service union bosses are being pressed against Justin's leg, humping at it, to let SFC Lavalin off the hook. So you see, it's all multi level, and very regional, all about Quebec's best interests, very corrupt.
 

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That's an awfully nice way of saying "cultural genocide" and worse.

The policies of this country did (and still do) inflict a trauma on an entire people. And when you have trauma to your body, you don't just remove the source and get on with your life, do you? You need to treat the results of the trauma. Why do you think the natives (as many prefer to be called) are overrepresented in the homeless community? In the jail system? This country kneecapped generations, and we need to deal with it. And if you don't like paying for it, consider that an underhoused person is far more expensive to this society than an adequately housed one.*

I actually used to think kind of like others here; why not just move to the city and get a job? Why live in the middle of nowhere? Then I learned more of the history, and my wife started working at the Carnegie centre and learned a lot more, as most of the people she works with are native. Fully integrated, equal participants in society is a great goal but we can't just say it should be so and be done. Consider that Jody Wilson-Raybould refused the Indigenous Affairs ministry because she is against the Indian Act, the law of our land; obviously we still have a long way to go.*
I think one thing we might agree on is the past and current policies don't work, maybe we should try something entirely different?

But to the relevancy of this topic. I have no expectations from Trudeau that this will be the case. At most I see more apologizing and funding for the 'crimes of the past'.

The Lavalin thing I think is much ado about nothing. Government trying to protect big business. Oh me oh my, what a shocker.*
 

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You can't even get the name of the company right that you seem to know so well.
Pointing out a spelling error to dispense my thread entry instead of challenging my information. Sounds like a typical leftie response gang pile. Knock yourself out.
 

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I think one thing we might agree on is the past and current policies don't work, maybe we should try something entirely different?

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* The Lavalin thing I think is much ado about nothing. Government trying to protect big business. Oh me oh my, what a shocker.*
On both of these, I agree. * *
 

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Pointing out a spelling error to dispense my thread entry
welcome to the interwebz.. you are your own worst editor.. gotta admit you kinda walked into that one. The F is no where near the N FFS :coffee

lefty, righty, straight the fvck down the middle; i'm sure it dont matter, we all got a good laugh at your expense. :hopmad

some more than others i'm sure.. but i guarantee you there's 2 or 3 who are still googling it this morning.. :flip
 

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Society today has become one of interaction amongst people, instead of being one on one equal, now automatically the interaction has been shifted to one of different levels of 'victimhood status'. Victimhood status which includes gender self identification, race, color, creed, religious regional minority. The level of victimhood status varies, and sometimes the collection of victimhood categories you have in life outweighs the severity level of the individual status you are burdened with. Instead of inclusion and true equality, this is separating the population groups. Clearly this is a push from the socialist left, who preach full inclusion. Justin runs hard and steady with this kind of mantra hypocrisy, hence his move to ignore the special and unique capabilities of his Liberal MP's to fill the special and very important roles of Cabinet, instead pull a mega virtue signal for the airheads who voted for him to quivver over.


Regarding SFC Lavalin, this is quite a bit more complicated than the apparent improper interaction of Justin and his pit bulls with the former Attorney General. SFC Lavalin has a very sordid and ugly proven reputation for bribes, threats, entrenched close interaction with horribly repulsive world dictators, bribes, hookers, etc, with [Gaddafi of Libya], and jurisdictions in Canada. Their history with the Federal Liberal party goes back decades. To clarify, they are a nasty fucking group. But of course, Justin's wishes for charges against SCF Lavalin to be dropped include the bullshit that he wants to save Quebec jobs, all while letting 10 fold more jobs in Alberta fly off into the wind. Quebec, being the country's only permanent status welfare state that would last mere days financially If Alberta transfer payments were cut off, needs to be protected, guarded. Justin's political future depends on it. Plus we have the fact that the Quebec Civil Service Pension Plan are heavily invested in SFC Lavalin, and pressure from Civil Service union bosses are being pressed against Justin's leg, humping at it, to let SFC Lavalin off the hook. So you see, it's all multi level, and very regional, all about Quebec's best interests, very corrupt.
Victimhood status/culture. Interesting. Not something I'd read about before. Thanks for bringing that up. You've supplied me with a few hours of learning something new. I am retired you know and need the stimuli.

You are bang on with regards to SNC. In Trudy's defense: He did buy Alberta a pipeline although he doesn't seem to be able to make it fly. Then again; special interest groups, etc. have a lot of swing in this country. For those who will squeal loudly about how bad pipelines are, trucking and rail are much more dangerous ways to move oil and the oil will be moved one way or the other.
 

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Victimhood status/culture. Interesting. Not something I'd read about before. Thanks for bringing that up. You've supplied me with a few hours of learning something new. I am retired you know and need the stimuli.
i have to agree that is a very interesting point... its something i have noticed as well but hadnt really put a word to it..

whats your 'crutch' in life sorta thing.. everybody has one these days! the younger generation seems to be going for broke on that shit.
 

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i have to agree that is a very interesting point... its something i have noticed as well but hadnt really put a word to it..

whats your 'crutch' in life sorta thing.. everybody has one these days! the younger generation seems to be going for broke on that shit.
Yep. Seems pretty common in the newly departed from the nest crowd. "Oh geez its tough out here I gotta blame the world". It can take quite a while before they figure out its themselves not the world.
 

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sometimes i think its simpler than that.. nothing wrong with 'em in the 1st place, a lot easier to deal
with a world that cares only of itself when there's nothing to blame others for :D

life is tough, yeh no shit its tough for everybody, and in most cases for the exact same reason! hahaha. deal with it, you're in good company :coffee
 

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Victimhood status/culture. Interesting. Not something I'd read about before. Thanks for bringing that up. You've supplied me with a few hours of learning something new. I am retired you know and need the stimuli.

You are bang on with regards to SNC. In Trudy's defense: He did buy Alberta a pipeline although he doesn't seem to be able to make it fly. Then again; special interest groups, etc. have a lot of swing in this country. For those who will squeal loudly about how bad pipelines are, trucking and rail are much more dangerous ways to move oil and the oil will be moved one way or the other.
Special interest groups for sure. And they are very good at it. Residents of weak mind continue to be spellbound by the power of a very good oratore. Take Barak Obama, perhaps the most skillful public speaker in living memory to be a president. Just last week, he heads to Alberta, and here in Vancouver, to sold out audience. This guy did everything he could, and is still trying to shut down the Cdn oil industry, in the name of saving the planet. Yet, in his 8 years as President, he oversaw the building of over 19,000 miles of oil pipelines in the continental U.S.. The U.S. is now the biggest supplier of oil on earth.

Hypocrisy. Remember that word. Anyone who follows a hypocrite, is a hypocrite.
 
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