Sorry to hear that your having a hard time dealing with it , as with most people/ riders would . Watching something like that can change the way you think , i would get a hold of your employer or icbc and see if there someone you can talk to about it. Lots of nice people in here that have gone through the same sort of thing ,I know they would help , It takes a brave person to be there in the end and do what needs to be done . Sorry that the out come was a bad one , by doing the right thing you should know that you people where there being the little bit of comfort he needed , what ever you do try not to keep it inside , lots of good people to talk to . sorry again . ps don't sell your stuff, riding is just to much fun i have been riding for 32 years and having more fun all the time , take care .
I Was There
I work for the city of richmond, in the bylaws department. I was the first vehicle on scene and called the Ambulance and First Responders to scene via my police band radio. The injuries the rider suffered were the most horrible ive ever seen. As a rider myself i was deeply upset at the terrible pain he was suffering. Death was not quick or merciful, and the poor rider suffered. I did what i could, a nurse and another medical proffesional tried desperately to keep him breathing and to stop him from bleeding out. I have not been on this site for a while because i sold my bike, it wasnt practical and i hated riding in the lower mainland. I can just imagine the rider was like me 13 years ago, a new rider loving every minute on the road. Their but by the grace of god go I. He was 20.... no offense to anyone but still a baby really, so much ahead of him. If there is one lesson i can convey its this:
WEAR A FULL FACE HELMET, ALWAYS!
I know, its not cool on the cruiser ect.. but ive worn a full face on a cruiser and its fine. The young lad that died on friday was wearing a half helmet, (not a beanie) and his face took the brunt of the collision. I dont know if he'd still be alive if he was wearing a full face, but i'd guess that he would be. As you can see by the time i wrote this that im not sleeping, i havent been able to sleep normally since the accident. Now im thinking of selling my great top quality gear, as i may never ride again.
WEAR A FULL FACE HELMET, ALWAYS!
I know, its not cool on the cruiser ect.. but ive worn a full face on a cruiser and its fine. The young lad that died on friday was wearing a half helmet, (not a beanie) and his face took the brunt of the collision. I dont know if he'd still be alive if he was wearing a full face, but i'd guess that he would be. As you can see by the time i wrote this that im not sleeping, i havent been able to sleep normally since the accident. Now im thinking of selling my great top quality gear, as i may never ride again.
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I am sure having to see what you did on Friday was devastasting, and even more so being a rider yourself.
This accident may be enough for you to hang up your gear and never ride, but I suggest you wait awhile to make that decision. Maybe just winterize your bike for now and place your gear out of sight. Next year, when it gets warm and you see all the riders out there again, you may have second thoughts. But you won't know until you can clear your head from the trauma of seeing the accident.
I want to personally thank you for stopping to help and subjecting yourself to such a duty of consoling the rider and trying to keep him alive, or at least comfortable. After my husbands accident, I have a new found respect for the few people who do this.
I would suggest seeking counselling for this. And if you work for the city, you can usually get free counselling through your employee assistance programs.
If not, please know you can PM me anytime and I can connect you with the close friends of mine who were there in the last minutes of Rick's accident.
Try and get some sleep !
This accident may be enough for you to hang up your gear and never ride, but I suggest you wait awhile to make that decision. Maybe just winterize your bike for now and place your gear out of sight. Next year, when it gets warm and you see all the riders out there again, you may have second thoughts. But you won't know until you can clear your head from the trauma of seeing the accident.
I want to personally thank you for stopping to help and subjecting yourself to such a duty of consoling the rider and trying to keep him alive, or at least comfortable. After my husbands accident, I have a new found respect for the few people who do this.
I would suggest seeking counselling for this. And if you work for the city, you can usually get free counselling through your employee assistance programs.
If not, please know you can PM me anytime and I can connect you with the close friends of mine who were there in the last minutes of Rick's accident.
Try and get some sleep !
No one should have to see what you saw. I admire the amount of courage it took you to take control of that situation. Good on you. I agree with Rachel that you should winterize and take a fresh look at it in the new year.
If the rider was wearing a full face helmut would he have survived?
If the rider was wearing a full face helmut would he have survived?
I'm glad there's people like you out there. In my opinion you are a true hero, and I applaude your efforts. Thank you for your effort. It gets easier, after time. I didn't sleep for a while after watching my friend pass away. It changed how I ride, it changes everything. I could never give it up, but I thought about it, hard.
RIP cruiser rider. My thoughts are with you.
RIP cruiser rider. My thoughts are with you.
Take solace in the fact that you did everything you could. Everything else was beyond your control. Seek help if your sleeping patterns don't return to normal within a few days.
Thanks for the post...hearing first hand accounts like this are sometimes the best ways to gain perspective on something. Sad to hear that the rider did not survive, and did not pass quickly. Props to you for doing all you could. My hat goes off to all emergency service personnel.
Wow, thanks for talking, I have seen alot of bad things but yeah, dont' give up riding.
Blade, you're a victim of vicarious trauma, please seek some help/counselling. If you're employer doesn't have an EAP program call 911 and ask for victim services, they have counsellors on staff to help with this.
It's unfortunate that you had to witness this and at the same time I can appreciate your attempts to help; it must have been difficult.
It's unfortunate that you had to witness this and at the same time I can appreciate your attempts to help; it must have been difficult.
The only thing worse than going down is being the first (or next) person on-scene at a crash site. I've been there and recommend you follow the advice (of seeking professional help of some sort). After every RIP thread I generally don't sleep all the way through the night for weeks later... which is actually a great step forward from where I once was.
And of course: RIP Rider
And of course: RIP Rider
RIP rider
props to you for trying to provide comfort and assist in any ways possible thru their last moments. talk it out with someone - and give the riding decision some time.in time things will get better. you know that this community is here for you!
props to you for trying to provide comfort and assist in any ways possible thru their last moments. talk it out with someone - and give the riding decision some time.in time things will get better. you know that this community is here for you!
It pains me to hear that's how he went. I'd heard the rumours that he died instantly, and I'd heard the rumours he died in hospital, and I was hoping to God that the former was true.
But, while it may not provide much in terms of comfort, please, don't give up riding. It'd be the last thing Jason would've wanted; for someone to give up something he himself loved so completely on his account.
Thank you for being there in those precious moments; it means a lot.
But, while it may not provide much in terms of comfort, please, don't give up riding. It'd be the last thing Jason would've wanted; for someone to give up something he himself loved so completely on his account.
Thank you for being there in those precious moments; it means a lot.
Thanks. Can't think of a good reason. Just thanks.
If you need some one to talk to, send me a pm, and I will give you my #. Yiu can call me anytime. reach out for help now, as you truly deserve all the support you can get. I had tons of support from everyone on BCSB when I was going through the first on the scene of an accident role.
Cory
Cory
peer support or some sort of counselling would help
Firstly, RIP rider.
Blade, no one in your position signs up for this. You just happen to be there when it happens. I'm certain you brought the rider some degree of comfort, and believe me nothing given is too small.
Prayers for you both.
Blade, no one in your position signs up for this. You just happen to be there when it happens. I'm certain you brought the rider some degree of comfort, and believe me nothing given is too small.
Prayers for you both.
RIP Rider.
Blade, as difficult as it is to deal with the trauma, it is very sound advise given by many already to seek some help/counselling. This does not mean you have to talk to a shrink, if you are more comfortable with just talking about it to any members of your family or a close friend. I find that helps to sort out the feelings...or Cory, aka alternateimpact, offered if you’d like to talk to someone who shares in the same horrible experience. On behalf of the entire riding community, I would like to convey sincere gratitude to you for being there for Jason. Condolences to everyone that he was taken away from, and all of those that tried to help him at his last moments.
Rivan, aka Ron
Blade, as difficult as it is to deal with the trauma, it is very sound advise given by many already to seek some help/counselling. This does not mean you have to talk to a shrink, if you are more comfortable with just talking about it to any members of your family or a close friend. I find that helps to sort out the feelings...or Cory, aka alternateimpact, offered if you’d like to talk to someone who shares in the same horrible experience. On behalf of the entire riding community, I would like to convey sincere gratitude to you for being there for Jason. Condolences to everyone that he was taken away from, and all of those that tried to help him at his last moments.
Rivan, aka Ron
Thank you everyone for your kind words, it has really helped me. To those of you that knew Jason, my condolences for your grief, i didn't know him, but based on what i saw he was a fighter, and never gave up.
(i am seeing a counsellor today).
Jamie
(i am seeing a counsellor today).
Jamie
Good for you. Never replied earlier, but I'm thankful for guys like you. There are many who are too scared to stop, or just don't care, or are in a hurry and can't miss their urgent petty lives. It's a sad fact that stopping is much more difficult than not, I'm sure, especially given what you might end up seeing or dealing with.
All the best, but above all thanks for having his back when he needed it.
All the best, but above all thanks for having his back when he needed it.
Good for you for getting help. No one should be expected to go through something like this alone. And your efforts and appreciated by everyone. Take good care of yourself.
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