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I listening to a rerun of Quirks and Quarks on Sunday that really caught my ear. Here's a link to the story below. If you scroll down just a little bit, listen to Bob MacDonald talk to the guy who did this study.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/lethal-memory-fail-why-drivers-see-and-then-forget-motorcyclists-1.5298381

I don't know what we can do to make drivers remember that we are there among all of the other visual noise, but this bit of knowledge is one more arrow in our quiver in understanding the dangers around us.
 

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I don't know what we can do to make drivers remember that we are there among all of the other visual noise, but this bit of knowledge is one more arrow in our quiver in understanding the dangers around us.
Thanks. People should glance at the linked article. Take away: "People's short term memory sucks. so don't assume that they saw you a few seconds ago and will remember when they pull out to do a silly-fast lane change a short time later."

I think most of us instinctively know and assume this but it is good to have this thinking corraborated in an article like this.

Thanks again David.
 

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i tend to keep an eye on random cars while out doing my thing..

invariably, the guy i'm fixated on turns out to be an asshat who refuses to shoulder check.. lol

I posted the above response before reading the article.. ohh looky here!

fvck yer memory! we know it sucks.. shoulder check would solve a lot of issues.

Chapman theorizes that the reason that motorcyclists and bicyclists are especially vulnerable to these "saw but forgot" crashes may have to do with our limited peripheral vision.
Most of the time, our weak peripheral vision is able to detect an oncoming car that we may have forgotten in these "looked but fail to see" events because they're big. It provides us with an extra safety net in the event where we forgot about the car.

But that extra protection is not available to motorcyclists because they're too small to be reliably picked up by our peripheral vision.
 

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Sometimes I like a decent pace and I find that overtaking and being constantly aware that no one has even remotely seen/become aware of my approach seems at times safer than running in the slow ass pace of traffic and relying on other drivers awareness and abilities.

Practicing emergency braking and evasive maneuvering is part of my routine and also working on the mind game. I got cut off brutally this week by a touristo who was 'missing' their exit. They got a hand in the air as a wtf but no finger and no retaliatory action/maneuvering.

Quirks and quarks(sp?) is a great show. For me I'd officially become my dad when I started regularly listening to CBC radio.
 

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I listening to a rerun of Quirks and Quarks on Sunday that really caught my ear. Here's a link to the story below. If you scroll down just a little bit, listen to Bob MacDonald talk to the guy who did this study.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/lethal-memory-fail-why-drivers-see-and-then-forget-motorcyclists-1.5298381

I don't know what we can do to make drivers remember that we are there among all of the other visual noise, but this bit of knowledge is one more arrow in our quiver in understanding the dangers around us.
I have run a modulated headlight flasher on my highbeam for about 20 years and feel that this method works well for you to be seen and accounted for by other drivers. I see drivers putting down their cell phones to look hard at me all the time. It would be interesting to see if they repeated the study if headlight flashers have measurable effect.
 

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I don't recall the last time I saw a headlight modulator in use. Too few to be worth studying and they are too annoying already, even to those of us who understand their use, to encourage further use.
 

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strange post above.. i see 'em all the time, only cheap ones are annoying.

subtle ones tend to grab your attention pretty quick.. you'd think with how common
some local riding destinations are in BC, responses would be somewhat similar.

i've been noticin' them a lot more lately
 

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I rarely see a headlight modulator. When I do its usually an old guy, wearing hi-vis, on a goldwing. It does grab your attention.

Seems a little over-the-top to me but whatever. I would re-evaluate my comfort level on bikes if I had to have a flashing headlight.

I will flash my high beam at some busy intersections if I'm uncomfortable with a left hand turner.
 

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must ride different roads, its not something id call rare, not in the same breath as
10 or 15 years ago. Come to think of it, could be a simple as a group of riders
who have them on an on/off switch and dont run with all the time. :dunno

i find when it comes to these 'devices' / safety gimmicks they may be, they're not
really "aimed" at other riders per-se. I guess just accepted it from that perspective..

I've seen enough now that there is a difference in better products. If i'm driving
home after a long day i find it a little refreshing to see riders utilizing what measures
may come to 'educate' the public. Drivers already dont see us, to each his own but
I dont blame pro-active riders, for wanting a little layer of added 'visibility'.

i just ordered a new Tail-Light relay kit to 'fix' the burned out oem version. My bike
comes from the factory with self canceling signals. But i have shitty luck, and its
cheaper to upgrade to a full brake-turn/light 'smart' unit. It has an accelerometer,
aka lean angle sensor so that it will not only cancel turn signals automatically
at end of turn but it will also sense when i'm slowing down via engine braking etc
so that my RED light will flash 3 or 4 times to warn others behind, as well as tie
in to the oem brake lever sensor. Its a neat little package, cost same as oem but
with lifetime warranty. :D

I may run a pulsing light on the daylight riding lights, those are just mini spots off
to the sides, double as front turn signals, main headlight is already bright as fvck
LED 6000k with ballast, so i'm good there.
 
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