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I'll weigh in on this as I have a little bit of experience in testing suits out. I have 3 and all of them have been down.......Funny think is one's low end JR highside (was 400 taxes in) That one lasted a few crashes but I was lucky I was going fairly slow. The leather tore up in chunks on the arms and a lot of stiching came apart. I would rate it as garbage, the parts that tore up were goatskin and I actually came out with hole in the shoulder in one crash. Came with hard armour. Next is a JR Speedway suit. Wore much better than the highside but the stitching still came apart in a few spots. Had soft armour and did it's job.

I have to say soft armour's a hell of a lot more comfortable than hard armour.

Next up I finally learned my lesson and bought a Vanson suit. I bought used so It was surprisingly cheap. Finish is ugly like all Vanson's but the quality is top notch. The leather crashes very well and this model came with hard armour everywhere including the shoulders. You can search hard for a used one your size (kinda deceptive since they're often custom made- the guy I bought from must have had a huge gut) or you can get them to make one to your specs. These have been down twice and are only a bit uglier and completely functional. I'm very happy with it and wouldn't buy cheap again.
 

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Just as an update I've purchased the Alpinestars TZ1 suit from Pac Yam (Thanks Amber :thumbup ). Just finished a long ride to Sunpeaks around to Whistler and back. A little stiff but the leather is starting to slowly break in. Way better than the first day already.

So far so good. Haven't crash tested yet so that's good.
 

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flowrider, Ive got the GPU and the TZ1 in mind, did you try them both on? Is the fit on the TZ1 $150 better? I only saw the TZ1 in a catalogue, and it sounded almost the same except the shoulders are easier to move, thats all it mentioned.
 

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Not to sure about the GPU but the TZ1 is lightyears ahead of the JR GPX. Way less seams to blow open and the leather just feels thicker. The TZ1 uses all cowhide while the JR GPX uses some goatskin which is softer and doesn't abrade as well. The clincher for me was the armour. The TZ1 has all hard armour while the GPX uses dual density soft foam. If you buy the TZ1 you will need to buy a back protector however. Funny though, If you buy the TZ1 as a jacket only it has a back protector.

Try them both on and see what you think. Go and see Amber at Pacific Yamaha. She's great and knows her stuff.
 
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I'll weigh in on this as I have a little bit of experience in testing suits out. I have 3 and all of them have been down.......Funny think is one's low end JR highside (was 400 taxes in) That one lasted a few crashes but I was lucky I was going fairly slow. The leather tore up in chunks on the arms and a lot of stiching came apart. I would rate it as garbage, the parts that tore up were goatskin and I actually came out with hole in the shoulder in one crash. Came with hard armour. Next is a JR Speedway suit. Wore much better than the highside but the stitching still came apart in a few spots. Had soft armour and did it's job.

I have to say soft armour's a hell of a lot more comfortable than hard armour.

Next up I finally learned my lesson and bought a Vanson suit. I bought used so It was surprisingly cheap. Finish is ugly like all Vanson's but the quality is top notch. The leather crashes very well and this model came with hard armour everywhere including the shoulders. You can search hard for a used one your size (kinda deceptive since they're often custom made- the guy I bought from must have had a huge gut) or you can get them to make one to your specs. These have been down twice and are only a bit uglier and completely functional. I'm very happy with it and wouldn't buy cheap again.
When you say the finsih was ugly, what exactly do you mean.......how the pieces fit together, the surface/colour of the leather itself or? I still have the set of Treens I had made back in 86 (been sitting in a box since 90 :( ) it's too bad I don't weigh 150 lbs any more. :eek: So I'm kind of looking for something on that level of quality, they were/are real nice. Probably something from Vanson, Bates or Z Leathers.

BTW, anyone know what happened with Treen, seems now they only make goves these days and from the website I have to wonder if they are even doing that now. I did like their old deerskin w/kevlar roadrace gloves, they were super comfortable.
 

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I guess what I was saying is most of the Vanson suits I'd ever seen were less attractive than those made by Dainese or Spidi, Alpinestar etc. This isn't the case any more. They've come out with new designs over the past couple years that are much better for the fashion conscious racer :p. Functionally and quality wise, I think they're about as good as it gets and all the zippers and stitching are among the best. I added 2 more crashes since then. There's still no appreciable damage. Great suit.

Here's a link for some pics if you want to see what I mean looks wise. It's not bad at all but there's better.
http://precisionroadracing.com/robgallery.html
 

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My bro (Atom) has a Vanson suit and he had a pretty bad get off. The suit did it's job very well. If you look at the back of his suit you can see the imprint of the armour from the slide! Very cool and still good to go.
 

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this is a similiar thread i replied to a little while ago on leather suits.

Don't waste your time with junk to protect your skin!! You can't just walk into Zellers and pick up some skin and slap-it-on!

Buy Vanson if you plan on riding over 60k's an hour. And so what if they cost $1800 bucks. Thats cheap considering they will SAVE YOUR ASS!!

Ive had mine for 13 years, when i first started riding then racing, 25 times down and they are still gold. A couple minor repairs, and one of those was to get my leg out of them.

BUT, if your riding invovles 'cruises' to starbucks, then yeah, go for them, they look trick Spyke, Alpines, etc crap.

Besides VANSON, there is also SYED's, Helimot, And Z-leathers in cali to ckeck out.

Ok, take it easy and keep it pinned right back to the stops!
 
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hey

dont get all that cheap leather get some real leathers likre mine, dainese richmond moter sports has some cool ones left hanging on the wall i bought a 2 piece suit for $900 plus tax and the regular price was $2300 not bad deal hey???? there are a few left and sizes vary good luck
 

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It's easy to say, go and spend $900 on a $2300 suit, I think anyone who needs equipment and has money would do that. Even people who had a slightly less than $900 budget would go for it.

But if the product wasn't over 60% off, woud you still buy that exact same suit? Were you willing to spend $2300 + tax? If your budget was $900 and this sale wasn't on, you wouldn't have been able to get the smoking deal you did.

Not trying to be an ass, but not everyone can get the deal you got, so it isn't fair to say "dont get all that cheap leather get some real leathers like mine".
 

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i just bought a JR speedmaster jacket from BK couple of weeks back

it's actually my first jacket and i got a good deal for it...it's not the new model with the insane speed hump on the back....haha
fits really nice and wasn't that much more expensive then textile, couldn't pass it up!!

good luck with the search though....good fit most importantly
 
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I read all the replies, which helped a lot. I took into consideration what everyone said and went to Burnaby Kawasaki and bought a Vanson suit for the race training course at West Coast Superbike School. I fell actually during the course on the last turn at Mission. When I got up after sliding for a few feet, I looked at my new suit and surprisinly it only had a few scratches. The stiching held up where I did most of the sliding. The instructors and other racers at the course told me that getting good quality leathers not only saves your behind but also saves you the trouble of having to buy a new suit right away because it can take few crashes. So Vanson was the way for me... it looks great, top notch quality, and fits awesome! I ended up buying a Vanson Jacket for the general street riding... just feel more protected

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can you post a pic? just curious as to what colours/design you got...or ill just ask trev.

thx.

i have one and 30 crashes later, some minor repairs here and there, and i still wear it.
 

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I would recommend you buy the best you can possibly afford.
 

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I'm just wondering, did you guys go out and buy all the best equipment right from the start (e.g. when you first started learning)? Do you really need to buy a full suit when you're just starting to learn?
 

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Cover yourself with leather and armour!

jermyzy said:
I'm just wondering, did you guys go out and buy all the best equipment right from the start (e.g. when you first started learning)? Do you really need to buy a full suit when you're just starting to learn?
I got my license in March and I bought a JR GPX 2 piece suit right away. By the sounds of this forum the JR is not that great but it is certainly better than what I see most people wear. Which is mostly jeans and jacket (if that!).

If you are just learning it is all the more reason to buy full gear. The first two years you are newbie and the third year is the the year you are most likely to crash. Get the gear. It may hurt the wallet, but the fall without the gear will hurt alot more!

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Sometimes the best equipment isn't necessarily the most expensive. I tried to get into Alpinestars clothing, but it didn't fit my body shape for the life of me, therefore, that is crap for me.

The best equipment is what fits you best and as SpideRider said "buy the best you can possibly afford".

With that in mind, a $800 Joe Rocket suit is not going to be as good as a $2800 Alpinestar suit, but if the JR suit is all you can afford, then get the JR suit. If I choose not to wear full leather, I adjust my riding and take that into consideration, but that is a different topic.

For me, I just went and blew a wad of $$ for my gear, but do I have a bike at this moment, unfortunately no. I do have the luxury of bumming a couple rides off my Dad's bike, but I am saving my pennies for my own bike. At the same time, I have decreased the size of my bike budget and put some of that money into my gear.

If you are debating how you are going to buy gear from your (I made this number up) $10,000 budget after blowing 9gs on the bikes and insurance, get an older bike, and put that money into gear. The leather suit is an investment. Good leathers can last a VERY long time, especially if maintained properly. So the better the gear the initially, the less upgrading you'll need to do ;)

I like to follow my this motto as best as I can:

Do it once, do it right.

Hope that helps. Read ALL the stickies in the forums, and gl.
 
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yes, buy the best you can offered. Even pay more on the gears less on the bike if you have limited budget.
 
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