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Interesting point.
The "downside," would be the sheer numbers of road testers required.
The "upside," would be the (hopefully) improved skills of motorists and motorcyclists.
Ooh! Ooh!. Think of the so called professional drivers, and how they could improve their skills.
(I'm not slamming professional drivers, however, there is a difference between someone who drives like a professional, and someone who drives for a living. One, is not necessarily the other)
To add to your suggestion, I propose an IQ test, prior to the ability to obtain a license.
"Here is my IQ test."
"Ah, I see you've scored a 78. Regretfully, it appears you are not yet intelligent enough to operate a motor vehicle. Please come back next year, for the re-test"
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Funny, I was just sitting here thinking that I really don't pay enough fees associated with driving and other useless services. They should make retesting mandatory every year. I think I'd like that.
do it like in europe .. driving school is like military, also start enforcing keep to the right/pass on left rule that is already on the books
this alone would eliminate most our problems
I would also see everyone drive mandatory stick, the uncoordinated would never pass the test
this alone would eliminate most our problems
I would also see everyone drive mandatory stick, the uncoordinated would never pass the test
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vancouver drivers suck
I'm here in new york, and man, they know how to drive!
they dont run yellows, they pull out of the intersection when they are blcoking it. Vancouver is stupid.
crist people drive in the right lane here, untill they need to pass :| FUCKING CRAZY!
nothing will help the drivers in BC. nothing.
I'm here in new york, and man, they know how to drive!
they dont run yellows, they pull out of the intersection when they are blcoking it. Vancouver is stupid.
crist people drive in the right lane here, untill they need to pass :| FUCKING CRAZY!
nothing will help the drivers in BC. nothing.
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My Proposition:
I think it would be a good idea if you shoved your idea up your ass. If it weren't for shitty riders, BCSB group rides would have zero attendance.
Thanks for comin' out.
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icbc licensed them to begin with, and probably recently too. you don't have to be a good driver to pass the test.Agreed.
However, would you pay extra to remove, oh, say 25% of the dumbest and worst drivers and riders, from our roadways?
Less traffic, and the vehicles out there at least meet a higher standard of driving skills.
Might be worth it.......
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Exactly our point!
Ensure only people whom are capable of the responsibilities of driving, properly trainied and rigorously tested, should be allowed the privilege of driving/riding.
Make the test more difficult to pass, with real life circumstances, and see the skill levels raise.
Probably needs to be augmented with hard and fast enforcement though.
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won't happen. the worst drivers are the often ones who are overly cautious. the test is designed to weed out safe drivers from unsafe drivers, not good drivers. there is no way icbc can objectively test for good driving skills, only safe.
for example, that manuever of inching across Kingsway, lane by lane, blocking all traffic just because they're too lazy to go to the next intersection? haha, not testable! but definitely annoying AND dangerous.
as untoldfox said: not in a New York minute would someone state the crazy NYC drivers are perfectly safe, just that they know how to drive in traffic, keep things moving etc. etc.
icbc wants to license people that avoid any and all kinds of traffic accidents at all costs so they can collect premiums rather than paying claims.
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I liked riding back from squamish, get on the nice 4 laner at the end, folks doing 50 kms in the "passing lane" Do you think a test will weed them out... caused my pressure to rise, my pulse to speed up and manuever around them in a death defying way.... who will lose his license on a re-test...you guessed it.... me
sorry but hitting the age of 70 should be lose your license day, that would cull some of the bad weeds
As all the Nurses,Doctors and us Paramedics say "If it werent for stupid people, we'd be out a job,keep 'em on the road I say !!!
sorry but hitting the age of 70 should be lose your license day, that would cull some of the bad weeds
As all the Nurses,Doctors and us Paramedics say "If it werent for stupid people, we'd be out a job,keep 'em on the road I say !!!
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nice idea in theory but unrealistic in practice -- the vast vast vast majority of people can pass a road test, and then proceed to ride like an idiot. Personally I can go back and pass a road test anytime, it doesn't mean I'm any safer when I leave though. :/
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A brutal driving test every 5 years would be great.
- Think, pay $500 every 5 years to remove bad drivers that don't even know the rules. Make it a realistic test, written and practical, an all day afair. Reduce one third of the driving public to public transit. Update drivers to new rules and traffic signals as technology advances. Keeps people's minds 'fresh' on their driving skills, knowing they will be tested soon.
Good for the environment. Reduces congestion.
Would allow the speed limits to be raised, and most importantly, stop the gross prolification of traffic lights that don't need to be here. A driver test would weed out uncapable drivers that can't make a left turn or cross an intersection without a traffic light to help them.
I'd be happy, the cost of the exam would be paid in reduced congestion, fuel, frustration and the environment.
Government would never do it, political suicide, but a realistic solution.
- Think, pay $500 every 5 years to remove bad drivers that don't even know the rules. Make it a realistic test, written and practical, an all day afair. Reduce one third of the driving public to public transit. Update drivers to new rules and traffic signals as technology advances. Keeps people's minds 'fresh' on their driving skills, knowing they will be tested soon.
Good for the environment. Reduces congestion.
Would allow the speed limits to be raised, and most importantly, stop the gross prolification of traffic lights that don't need to be here. A driver test would weed out uncapable drivers that can't make a left turn or cross an intersection without a traffic light to help them.
I'd be happy, the cost of the exam would be paid in reduced congestion, fuel, frustration and the environment.
Government would never do it, political suicide, but a realistic solution.
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I know it. A nice dream though. Unclogged roads. Knowing the motorists around you have a higher degree of skill, than most motorists now.
Respectfully, I'll disagree. ICBC egages in safe driving and things like "zero crash month," to reduce claims.
If $.86 of every premium dollar goes to pay claims, the ultimate result of reduced claims, and claims payments, means the premiums should go down.
ICBC is a business entity, a requirement. It doesn't have emotions.
Money in, money out.
Reduce the 'money out,' the Superintendent of Insurance, the BCUC, the provincial government, and the public, will demand a reduction of 'money in.'
Granted, people crash, thieves steal, vandals run amuck. It'll never happen.
Riders won't crash, politicians won't lie, tax dollars won't be miss-spent. Debate won't end up in a ring of discussion, but actual results that benefit people.
It'll never happen.
But a guy can dream. Then, turn over, wake up, and continue on.:surrender
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what is the benefit for people to pass the test again? To ensure people know how to drive safely? Then I guess every every plumber, taxi drivers, tour guides, contractors, mill workers, insurance, real estate agents, soliders, etc should all get tested every 2-5 yrs. en ensure people are safe with their job.
Totally - I noticed on recent trips to Washington/Oregon/Cali that there are signs stating it's illegal to drive in the left lane unless passing. And for the most part they seem to stick to it - makes things so much smoother.
Since the advent of the HOV lane here there doesn't seem to be a 'fast' lane anymore on hwy 1.
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I think the one biggest problem is people tailgating.
Every morning I go through so many merge points and people tailgate so bad that they only start merging when they're running out of road. While traffic is still flowing, people don't merge properly and then the chain reaction of brakes come on to the point of stopping. Leave space and look ahead, it's a simple concept...
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Every morning I go through so many merge points and people tailgate so bad that they only start merging when they're running out of road. While traffic is still flowing, people don't merge properly and then the chain reaction of brakes come on to the point of stopping. Leave space and look ahead, it's a simple concept...
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