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yeah that's what i'm hoping i can do with the tablet.. kinda link myself a map either ones i make now, or the previous day on a laptop etc and just press go, almost every campsite i have shot for has wifi etc so, so should be easy, and i can keep the lap top off the bike. it can count me down etc.. show me turns etc in offline mode.

and yeah a lot of stuff to ride out east.. could spend a few more days out there easy, but this is a decent mix.. riding/driving the 'boring' stuff, and a few hang outs.. I re did CO based on a buddy who lives in denver.. not super happy over the middle.. leaving denver to kc for some free bbq, then ozarks to chatt... just messy not real good way to do it.

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after that up to MA for a day then back home.. only really stopping at black hills/devils tower and lolo

a month goes by pretty quick.
 

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What do you use as a gps? an actual gps? phone? tablet etc?
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i use a GPS.. picked up a new model summer of '17.

i plan things ahead on the computer and keep notes i can refer back to.

the GPS can be a dangerous thing as its such a small screen you sometimes cant tell its taking you down a more complicated
route just because it calculates it to be 1 minute faster!! So yeah pick your spots to stop in for lunch and a quick review
if you're not certain. Having a proper sized TABLET is key on longer trips, you'll sleep better thanks to less stress :coffee

this year i picked up a new helmet and I plan on splurging for the communications package so i can link it to my GPS & Smartphone via bluetooth.

Out on the road i live with next to no stress at all cause i always have the GPS going and searching for restaurants, gas, bank etc is very quick and accurate!!

we used to run with notes on the tank bag and shite, but it just got too damn confusing once living on the bike, its a little easier if you're hauling the toy though.
 

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let me know if you wanna split a dual package.. thinkin i might pick up one this year too just for music etc.
 

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on Day 17, skip the North Half of the lake (road 1134) after you do cherohala skyway (greatest road ever). The road around the lake is narrow and crappy. Its not fun at all. The other route around the lake 143/129 is way more fun. :)
 

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let me know if you wanna split a dual package.. thinkin i might pick up one this year too just for music etc.
i wish i could, and to be honest I almost posted on here to see if there was any interest.. I was looking at the Sena's as a new model is out.

Alas I cant go there, I bought a Schuberth C4 modular helmet. It comes ready for its own dedicated comm. system made with help from SENA :D

speakers & mic are already in place from the factory. its great :thumbup




Currently the SC1 Advanced is what you would be getting but the SC2 is already posted on Schurberth's website and its based on
the SENA 20s architecture!! so I will be getting all the features of the actual Sena system, but its integrated into the helmet!!

its pretty cool, i just gotta wait it out and see when the SC2 will be available in stores. A friend of mine is in Germany and the suppliers dont have 'em yet :(
 

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i wish i could, and to be honest I almost posted on here to see if there was any interest.. I was looking at the Sena's as a new model is out.

Alas I cant go there, I bought a Schuberth C4 modular helmet. It comes ready for its own dedicated comm. system made with help from SENA :D

speakers & mic are already in place from the factory. its great :thumbup




Currently the SC1 Advanced is what you would be getting but the SC2 is already posted on Schurberth's website and its based on
the SENA 20s architecture!! so I will be getting all the features of the actual Sena system, but its integrated into the helmet!!

its pretty cool, i just gotta wait it out and see when the SC2 will be available in stores. A friend of mine is in Germany and the suppliers dont have 'em yet :(
Don't be surprised if you're very disappointed with the Integrated system on that helmet. The mic design they went with sucks, and is one of the reasons that the C4 went on clearout so fast, and they iterated to the C4 pro.
You can however use a regular Sena or Cardo (arguably better) units on that helmet, which may be a cheaper or better solution.
 

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yeah that's what i'm hoping i can do with the tablet.. kinda link myself a map either ones i make now, or the previous day on a laptop etc and just press go, almost every campsite i have shot for has wifi etc so, so should be easy, and i can keep the lap top off the bike. it can count me down etc.. show me turns etc in offline mode.

and yeah a lot of stuff to ride out east.. could spend a few more days out there easy, but this is a decent mix.. riding/driving the 'boring' stuff, and a few hang outs.. I re did CO based on a buddy who lives in denver.. not super happy over the middle.. leaving denver to kc for some free bbq, then ozarks to chatt... just messy not real good way to do it.


after that up to MA for a day then back home.. only really stopping at black hills/devils tower and lolo

a month goes by pretty quick.

day 7: US 50 is more interesting than I-80

day 15: continue on GA 60 beyond Suches as far as the junction with 19, then return to your route. this little section is only about a dozen km, was one of the very finest chunks of road that The Bartender and I rode out of three weeks in Appalachia last year!

day 17: agreed with Bartender's comment; skip 1134.

day 18: look at all that fuckin crazy twistiness!!!

day 19: as above...

day 20: Bluff to Hot Springs - repeat as necessary!

IMG_1435 by Don Serl, on Flickr


day 22: if you can find a way to ride VA 58 Damascus to Volney, then 16 north to rejoin your plotted route, you'll thank me for the suggestion...

day 23: I presume there's a reason you need to go to Frederick, and bypass all those fine roads in the hills...


btw, there's no way you're gonna get all of this done! not that it's a bad thing to plan... but, first, you're gonna get tired! yup, you get worn down, even with excellent road after excellent road ... in fact, once you get into all that twistiness back east, you're gonna be far more 'beat' than you expect! second, weather. the east is not like the west. there's not really a dry season out east - it more or less rains the same number of days per month every month, give or take a bit. so, bad weather day = relax day and/or easy travel onward day, for your style. you WILL have to bypass some stuff..

as you now plot your homeward trip, let me recommend US 50. it's far more interesting than I-80, which it sorta follows, cuz it passes thru 'real' America - small towns, agricultural lands, very little traffic, almost no long-haul transport trucks, etc. quite delightful, if not 'technical'. and US50 was the first transcontinental highway, from New York to San Francisco, so there's a tinge of history in every mile.

wow! it's great fun to watch your trip come into being... it'll be even better to watch your posts as it unfolds!
 

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Don't be surprised if you're very disappointed with the Integrated system on that helmet. The mic design they went with sucks, and is one of the reasons that the C4 went on clearout so fast, and they iterated to the C4 pro.
You can however use a regular Sena or Cardo (arguably better) units on that helmet, which may be a cheaper or better solution.
a lot of the comments are actually part of the early releases or reviews which made the rounds.

The regular Sena or others wont work because of the adjustable (internal) sun visor.. Lever gets in the way when trying to place the gizmos
on the left side of the helmet.. Basically the device ends up being pushed all the way back and its a pain to use. The SC integrated system is very clean.
I would like to stay away from adding an external system due to added weight which will throw balance off, i've got a bad neck and would like to avoid this.
cant wear a helmet camera either, for the same reasons.. it probably doesnt sound like a lot but my previous helmet was full Carbon Fiber. This one is heavier as is.

the mic is situated up around the forehead section.. my C4 has a rubber 'edge' strip which seals when visor closes.
the early versions of the C4 did not have this (afaik) and folks who complained about a shitty microphone were actually listening
to buffeting wind sounds which muffled the riders' speech. I dont think i'd have that issue when riding the Raider with its 9 inch windscreen .

It 's not the quality of the mic nor the speakers. though i've already researched the speakers i'm gonna put in there , audio geek and all :coffee

I'm an electronics technician, i can install a better mic near the chin area if its gonna work better.

I hear the SC2 is an improved version as well which takes care of the little issues the 1st versions were plagued with.
considering the price i got the lid for, i'm not complaining.. I researched it all long b4 i pulled the plug.

There are plenty of owners who run an SC1 Advanced now and with firmware upgrade the gremlins went away.
I am sticking with Sena 'cause thats what all my riding group of friends use, as well as dad. Thanks though :thumbup
 

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day 7: US 50 is more interesting than I-80

day 15: continue on GA 60 beyond Suches as far as the junction with 19, then return to your route. this little section is only about a dozen km, was one of the very finest chunks of road that The Bartender and I rode out of three weeks in Appalachia last year!

day 17: agreed with Bartender's comment; skip 1134.

day 18: look at all that fuckin crazy twistiness!!!

day 19: as above...

day 20: Bluff to Hot Springs - repeat as necessary!

IMG_1435 by Don Serl, on Flickr


day 22: if you can find a way to ride VA 58 Damascus to Volney, then 16 north to rejoin your plotted route, you'll thank me for the suggestion...

day 23: I presume there's a reason you need to go to Frederick, and bypass all those fine roads in the hills...


btw, there's no way you're gonna get all of this done! not that it's a bad thing to plan... but, first, you're gonna get tired! yup, you get worn down, even with excellent road after excellent road ... in fact, once you get into all that twistiness back east, you're gonna be far more 'beat' than you expect! second, weather. the east is not like the west. there's not really a dry season out east - it more or less rains the same number of days per month every month, give or take a bit. so, bad weather day = relax day and/or easy travel onward day, for your style. you WILL have to bypass some stuff..

as you now plot your homeward trip, let me recommend US 50. it's far more interesting than I-80, which it sorta follows, cuz it passes thru 'real' America - small towns, agricultural lands, very little traffic, almost no long-haul transport trucks, etc. quite delightful, if not 'technical'. and US50 was the first transcontinental highway, from New York to San Francisco, so there's a tinge of history in every mile.

wow! it's great fun to watch your trip come into being... it'll be even better to watch your posts as it unfolds!
nice. yeah day 6? only reason to take i80 over 50 is to go to Bonneville. i50 also has ely and i could always run my own SSCC.. though I could keep on 50 then hit Bonneville on the way home.. as ill be practically bee lining it across the north.

and day 23.. checkin' out.. leavin' myself a a few days to get home. last couple visitations.. fredrick then to mass.. then home.

after i made the routes i went back and wrote down the daily mileage etc and yeah it's a lot of riding, but I'd rather plan a full day, every day and skip one due to weather/being tired, then to plan a lazy day
 

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after i made the routes i went back and wrote down the daily mileage etc and yeah it's a lot of riding, but I'd rather plan a full day, every day and skip one due to weather/being tired, then to plan a lazy day
There are definitely days and states you can put on a lot of miles and hours, but the Appalachians generally will not be one of them. We generally plan our days for our trips as 500-650 km. This usually equals about 9 hours riding. I've done this day after day for 2 weeks of riding out here without issue. When we were in the Appalachians we generally rode 350-450 km per day, and had to take a day off every week to recoup. Imagine trying to do trackdays all day for two weeks straight, thats what the riding back there is often like. Its amazing, but it is exhausting (mentally and physically).
 

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Its amazing, but it is exhausting (mentally and physically).
I think that's the number one thing that people who aren't seasoned riders (multi-day/wk twist-fest type riding) underestimate, is how mentally exhausting it can be.
 

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I think that's the number one thing that people who aren't seasoned riders (multi-day/wk twist-fest type riding) underestimate, is how mentally exhausting it can be.
i'll chime in on that as well, this! I haven't ridden out east much but this is why i really enjoyed the whole Toy-Haul process.

I tend to enjoy finding ways to relax while on the road, having a 4 wheel vehicle to just hop into and go to the liquor store at the
end of a ride (the above distances seem to be about dead on with us as well) is a beautiful thing..

One thing forlks also dont realize is how much you actually miss when you're on a bike, so much of your daily activities
are limited by the fact you're wearing leather head to toe and a helmet, practically all day long.. :laughing


to draw a bit of perspective with the whole multi-day ride holidays, when you're in town you can ride one or two days no problem, and 'rest' for 5.

When you're on the road on a bike, you're riding for 5, hoping to get a full day of rest where possible.. its an entirely different experience.

Yes, it helps immensely to work-out in readiness for :thumbup
 
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