"Street Racing" vs. just speeding

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Harps

Discussion Starter · Mar 30, 2002

Okay so I'm guessing tha tmost of you have probably heard about that new program that the RCMP and the provincial government have put together which gives Police Officers the right to suspend a driver's licence, on the spot, if they think they have been involved in street racing. This is all due to the number of recent street-racing related eaths there have been in the past few weeks.

My question is, where do you guys think that we fit into this? If we're out riding with just one or two friends, and we're going fast (as we sometimes tend to do) then do you think the cop would think that we were racing each other? Or do you think they would understand that motorcyclists just like to ride in groups, and that just because we were all going fast, we weren't neccesarily racing. Because really, when you're riding in a group, you do sometimes go REALLY fast...but you usually keep it very organized, with a leader and everyone falling in behind that person...not too much passing, and certainly no aggressive passing.

So my question is, what do you guys think a cop would do if he were to pull over three of us that were going 160km/h in a 100km/h zone on the highway?

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Miteorite

· #2 · Mar 30, 2002

that'd be shitty..
what happened to innocent until proven guilty?
if im suspended on the spot that doesn't even give me the chance to appeal..

if a bunch of us is going really fast they'll probably give us a ticket..
most cops i came in contact with are pretty nice people..

-d

bugs

· #3 · Mar 30, 2002

I would guess that if we can convince them we were not racing, they might be cool about it and know we were not, otherwise if we know we were not and they try to remove our liscences then I guess the next logical place is in court. Its unfortunate that many of us have to suffer because of the stupidity of others, and I guess the authorities are right for nailing down on the culprids, but hopefully they don't look at us as being them.

CG

· #4 · Mar 30, 2002

This has already happened to some people, and they are fighting it already in court.... basically some guy got pulled over for speeding, the cop claimed he was racing, but there was no other car around to race.... it'll be interesting to see what happens.

bugs

· #5 · Mar 30, 2002

Lucky for us we are organised riders, so we have a chance to see the cops (sometimes) and I don't think we allow our selves to be stupid enough to "race"

CG

· #6 · Mar 30, 2002

well, at least we aren't the ones getting targetted. If I drove a rice mobile, I would be fearing my life if I had to drive through richmond these days....

hell, even yesterday, 4 of us on the ride R6rider organized, got pulled over by bicycle cops in the richmond centre parkade, and asked us for licence and registration.... I was surprised they didn't test the pipes on Jim's TLR.... :eek

thr1

· #7 · Mar 30, 2002

you guys got bothered by bike cops in a mall parking lot? that's just f**king ridiculous

Sewman

· #8 · Mar 30, 2002

I was reading an article in the local paper about a West Van 19 yrold that got his license suspended for two years.

He was presumably doing a little top speed run on the upperlevels highway. The cop sits on top of the bridge around the Cypress exit and if he sees someone coming at speed he'll boot it down the onramp to get you from behind. Anyways, this kid was clocked at 159km/h and his license is toast.

My stomach got butterflies after as I read the story because the same thing happened to me when I was 18 one bored 3am weekday. Same spot, probly the same f*ck*n cop.

Except I was going 180 in my 89 civic. (Yeah, it takes awhile but it'll get there!) So I couldn't afford to lose my momentum, cuz a hill was on the horizon and my high output 1.5L with 14 inch wheels were going to lose a couple nuts. So I keep booking it around a corner and lose sight of his headlights. Stand on the brakes and go from 180 to 80 in seconds thanx to my amazing stock rear drum brakes. The dude had not yet captured my speed on his radar so he crept up to me, ran my place and just sped off in defeat.

No ticket...

Everyone has to test the limits at least once to know what it's like and I feel bad for the young man cuz that could have easily been me. I'm lucky my curiosity didn't land me a 400 bone ticket. I now drive like a granny. Maybe tha's because my poor 4....maybe 3 cylinder can't take it anymore.

:rider :rider :rider man...this smily is so cool:rider

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G

· #9 · Mar 30, 2002

first year i was riding me and some friends all got pulled over for speeding at the south end of the cambie bridge...long story short, they took our licenses on the spot for "racing" but it didnt hold up in court because they understood how because everyone has to be on a separate bike it isnt necessarily racing...they said if we had been in separate cars though - it would have been...
i dont think we have anything to worry about for that reason

CG

· #10 · Mar 30, 2002

Sewman said:
I was reading an article in the local paper about a West Van 19 yrold that got his license suspended for two years.

He was presumably doing a little top speed run on the upperlevels highway. The cop sits on top of the bridge around the Cypress exit and if he sees someone coming at speed he'll boot it down the onramp to get you from behind. Anyways, this kid was clocked at 159km/h and his license is toast.

My stomach got butterflies after as I read the story because the same thing happened to me when I was 18 one bored 3am weekday. Same spot, probly the same f*ck*n cop.

whoa man :eek makes me wonder what would happen if I got clocked on radar on thursday headin out to meet R6rider in richmond on highway 99.... Lets just say I had my speedo indicating well over 200 day

but again, I only do that type of stuff when no cars are around, and of course, no places for a copper to hide and get me

Though I heard they use aircraft to clock you on highway 99, hence the reasons for those white painted lines you see every now and then on that stretch out to white rock.... so the moral of my post here, when speeding on highway 99, check the sky above you for any flying pigs

Ryan R

· #11 · Mar 30, 2002

Though I heard they use aircraft to clock you on highway 99

Your kidding right :eek

G

· #12 · Mar 30, 2002

Canadian_Gixxer said:
so the moral of my post here, when speeding on highway 99, check the sky above you for any flying pigs

yeah man.... r u serious...

if u r... holy f*ck! :eek :confused

CG

· #13 · Mar 30, 2002

what i've been told is, they have someone following from the sky (low flying plane or something, that probably take-offs and lands at boundry bay airport is my guess), they can calculate how fast you are going by how long it takes for you to reach markers they have down along the highway, then they will radio ahead the coppers in front and tell them to wave you down, and bang, write you up a ticket....

I have yet to see this happen, but this is what i've been told.... haven't you guys ever noticed the white marker lines on highway 99?? and plus, there are no places for a cop to hide on that highway (no trees or sneaky overpass or nuttin), so it must be the only way they can get ya.... or of course there is always the sneaky undercover vehicle with the N on the back

it's amazing how fast people drive on that highway, I believe the posted limit is 80-100? average speed everybody is doing is like 120+

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G

· #14 · Mar 30, 2002

they have them on the new highway over here on the island that is exactly what they are for.

G

· #15 · Mar 30, 2002

Well if we ever got nailed for 'racing' it would be good to know that everyone would show up in court to support one another and convince them that speeding is all it was. When we did a fast run last weekend not one person was passing another, we were all organized in a staggered formation and I think that is evidence enough.

Harps

Discussion Starter · #16 · Mar 31, 2002

Sewman said:
:rider :rider :rider man...this smily is so cool:rider

It's just too bad it doesn't come in green.

Harps

Discussion Starter · #17 · Mar 31, 2002

blazinr6 said:
first year i was riding me and some friends all got pulled over for speeding at the south end of the cambie bridge...long story short, they took our licenses on the spot for "racing" but it didnt hold up in court because they understood how because everyone has to be on a separate bike it isnt necessarily racing...they said if we had been in separate cars though - it would have been...
i dont think we have anything to worry about for that reason

Okay, that gives me some hope. I have to tell you though, I strongly disagree the way that the police are going about doing this. RCMP officers should NOT be allowed to suspend someone's licence for more than 24hrs if they catch them speeding. It's curbside justice at it's worst...

Just to respond to what someone said earlier...most cops I have been pulled over by have not been very cool. I probably get pulled over once a month or so during riding season. I'm doing absolutely nothing wrong, but they feel they have to pull me over just to ask if I havea valid class 6 or to see my insurance, or to make sure I own the bike. I've only once been issued a ticket while riding (for an illegal right turn...stupid ticket) but every other time it's just some stupid cop trying to flex his or her muscle. When I get pulled over in my car (not often) I never get the same attitude from them.

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R1 GIRL

· #18 · Mar 31, 2002

Whoa...

Are YOU telling me that cops ride around in a ghost car/van/truck with a big green N on the back?

That's not good... I always try to pass those guys EXTRA fast, just to make 'em nervous. Tee hee!! Yeah, yeah... I never said I was nice... those "N" people always drive sooooo slow. :laughing

:rider

CG

· #19 · Mar 31, 2002

Re: Whoa...

R1 GIRL said:
Are YOU telling me that cops ride around in a ghost car/van/truck with a big green N on the back?

That's not good... I always try to pass those guys EXTRA fast, just to make 'em nervous. Tee hee!! Yeah, yeah... I never said I was nice... those "N" people always drive sooooo slow. :laughing

:rider

yeah, i've heard from several people of ghost cars/vans/trucks that had N's on them.... thats very sneaky.... I remember hearing once that somebody was trying to pass a ghost van and the van sped up to not let him pass.... before I go off and do anything stupid, I always scan around looking for coppers.... then even when I'm in the middle of doing something stupid, I still scan around for them....

I'll tell ya what though.... the day the motorcycle cops get busa's, 12R's or CBRXX's, then i'll be scared.... but for now, i'm not

G

· #20 · Apr 1, 2002

Re: Whoa...

R1 GIRL said:
Are YOU telling me that cops ride around in a ghost car/van/truck with a big green N on the back?

That's not good... I always try to pass those guys EXTRA fast, just to make 'em nervous. Tee hee!! Yeah, yeah... I never said I was nice... those "N" people always drive sooooo slow. :laughing

:rider

That's because if you have an N, you get more then 4 points you lose your licsence, and you can get points for stupid things like not having the sign on, and cops are extra nasty assholes if you have an N or L.

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