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I want to start researching an alternative to my Dainese 2-Piece leather suit. I'm hoping you guys can help me narrow down my options:

Fit - I want it fairly tight. I notice a lot of pants are baggy and that concerns me in a crash where the armor can move around
Protection - Good armor
Style - I want a short jacket, not the "below-the-waist" style you typically see
Water Resistant - Do I want/need Goretex?
Breathability - I want lots of it, as an option
 

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I want to start researching an alternative to my Dainese 2-Piece leather suit. I'm hoping you guys can help me narrow down my options:

Fit - I want it fairly tight. I notice a lot of pants are baggy and that concerns me in a crash where the armor can move around
Protection - Good armor
Style - I want a short jacket, not the "below-the-waist" style you typically see
Water Resistant - Do I want/need Goretex?
Breathability - I want lots of it, as an option
Pretty much your only option that will have the abrasion resistance that you require are the offerings by Motoport: http://www.motoport.com/. Not particularly aesthetically pleasing imho, and have had varied reviews about fit and crash worthiness: https://advrider.com/f/threads/crashed-motorport-kevlar-mesh-pant-and-stretch-jacket.1338395/ and here: https://advrider.com/f/threads/motoport-gear-crash-tested-at-70-mph.507934/. There are however some favorable anecdotal reports that the fabric is very abrasion resistance in a crash, and that the comprehensive armor system has saved many injuries. I have looked into the system and have been hesitant to jump in due to the price, the possible poor fit, the significant heat that could be generated by textiles in a slide, and the very challenging ability of selling said suit at a later date given my particular stature. For a price not far from that bracket, I would personally go for a full set of Vanson leathers and an airbag vest. BIFL suit, enhanced active safety and neck bracing, and easily transferable and modular.

I think a bunch of dudes here have Motoports, perhaps they can chime in.
 

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I have an Olympia textile jacket that I have been very happy with. The fit is as you describe wanting, waist length. It came with a zip in waterproof layer that actually will fit over the jacket instead of zipping in. Which I find much more convenient if you do require waterproofness. I'll look on the tag for the model if you'd like and try to snap a photo or two. Here is one I have on hand. I paired it with agv pants which I think are discontinued and I have not been very happy with, the quality is lacking in comparison to the Olympia jacket for material and fit and finish.*

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I'd start with Dainese and Spidi. Then look at Klim and Aether but those are more like the adventure rider style and last thing you want is to get mixed up with that crowd.
 

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Don't forget Rukka. I've also been looking at Held moto gear recently; there are some sales out there....
 

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I've been looking for something similar. Klim Latitude is what i've been looking at. It does sit slightly below the waist, but it checks every other box for me (although I wish it had more color options).
 

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I've been looking for something similar. Klim Latitude is what i've been looking at. It does sit slightly below the waist, but it checks every other box for me (although I wish it had more color options).
Oh my, what next, adventure bikes? KLR's? Camping?!?!
 

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I'm really happy with my Dianese stuff. Nice shoulder, lower arm and knee/lower leg armour, I had a hard time finding other textile pants with armour.*

I got the D-air stuff that has a removable waterproof lining. But it's a band-aid, not suitable for extended wet weather riding. Ventilation is great without having mesh in impact areas.

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You should check out Rubber Side Down in Richmond. While I've never tried his textiles, I'm very happy with the custom leather jacket he made me 4 years ago. You can get tailor made stuff for the same price or less than brand name and it's definitely worth checking out the website. Just call ahead before dropping by since it's a 1 man show and he won't be there all day long.

https://www.rubbersidedown.ca/
 

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I’ve had two sets of Aerostitch, the 2 piece suits. Fantastic kit. Completely waterproof, even on the north coast. Not flashy, not sporty ..... functional to the nth degree. Good enough to take multiple dumplings when off road with no damage to me or the gear. Never crash tested on road.

The work kit is mesh textile. It’s Canadian made but I don’t know the manufacturer, I can check when I get back. It’s good quality, comfortable and only crash tested during yearly requals at low speeds ..... worked fine.
 

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I’ve had two sets of Aerostitch, the 2 piece suits. Fantastic kit. Completely waterproof, even on the north coast. Not flashy, not sporty ..... functional to the nth degree. Good enough to take multiple dumplings when off road with no damage to me or the gear. Never crash tested on road.

The work kit is mesh textile. It’s Canadian made but I don’t know the manufacturer, I can check when I get back. It’s good quality, comfortable and only crash tested during yearly requals at low speeds ..... worked fine.
Layin' er down to save er huh?
 

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Layin' er down to save er huh?
LOL, had to lay 'er down to avoid a crash.

Trying to wrestle 950lb of overweight, underpowered Harley inside a figure eight as big as a small 2 car garage things happen. You learn really quick to not try and save it. Keep your feet and arms tucked in and let it hit the deck. I've known guys who have their legs snap like twigs when they put a foot down.

The BMW is much, much easier to maneuver.
 

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LOL, had to lay 'er down to avoid a crash.

Trying to wrestle 950lb of overweight, underpowered Harley inside a figure eight as big as a small 2 car garage things happen. You learn really quick to not try and save it. Keep your feet and arms tucked in and let it hit the deck. I've known guys who have their legs snap like twigs when they put a foot down.

The BMW is much, much easier to maneuver.
HD. Not even once.
 

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Textile jackets cover a huge range of specialized use, differing types of textile, differently prepared textiles, and differing layer position. just checked, I have 15 jackets alone, never mind the pants. Included in that are non textile jackets, 2 leather, and 1 waxed cotton.

One must think about different performance characteristics in the different type of textiles out there. I'm not going to cover Kevlar in this, unless it comes up, as I consider it a fabric unto it's own quite separate in performance levels to all the textiles.

Right off the bat, you need to understand the 1st distinction in a waterproof jacket, whether the waterproof barrier is an inside liner or the outside main textile. I've got lots of both types. If you've ever walked into a hotel room or home, and your jacket weight 20 pounds more in water, and creates a puddle under where it's hanging, you know that's a jacket with the waterproof aspect on the inside. You will find you will have to pull over to the side of the road to put in the liner [riding into a rain storm] and in turn pulling it out [riding down from a cool pass into a hot valley] . Outside layer waterproof aspect is by far superior in basic design.

Types of textile treatment make a big difference in performance, crash capability, and ability. Polyurethane coated nylon is by far the least expensive, and if you fall and skid, IS the one which will melt, and melt into your skin from abrasion heat. Non polyurethane coated textile, almost always Goretex brand Cordura, will prevent this. Unfortunately, this means you'll mostly have to put up with fiddling around with waterproof liner on a tour.

Color. Another thing to think about. Just like helmets, a black jacket will heat up way more in the sunshine of summer. And quickly cool off in the shade. But a lighter color will show dead bug guts in the front, rear chain oil spray on your back, which won't wash out.

Armour. lower cost jackets will have armour less willing to form to you, causing pressure points that will drive you nuts. Study armour types.

Ryan @ Fortine has just done a video basically testing the different textile fabric out there, although not all, and rating them. Quite informative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtCdQfbLw7o


What do I use right now? BMW has chosen to make their own fabric [typical Germans] probably to avoid the huge copyright agreement costs of Gortex. It's made by Sholler, a kind of Gortex/Kevlar hybrid, on 2 of their jackets, BMW Streetguard, BMW Streetguard Long, and BMW Enduroguard, which offers the durability of equivalent 1000 denier Gortex, and the ability to make a jacket with the waterproof aspect outside layer #1. I've owned the Streetguard for 12 years now, and only just a couple years ago it began to lose it's waterproof capabilities. And i've gained some weight and it's gotten a bit tight in the belly, lolol. Last spring after deciding it's comfort, venting, etc was the best I've ever had [including a 70km/hr 'off' skidding along my right shoulder and elbow with no rips or wear through's] meant i was going to go with a new Streetguard Long [longer cut on the back preventing cold air going up the back on a sportbike]. The new Enduroguard caught my eye, bought it instead. After a year of ownership, I regret not sticking with the Streetguard. The Enduroguard, much like my Motoport Ultra 1000, I'm sure I'd easily survive a grizzly attack if wearing the thing. That's perhaps it's biggest issue, it's just TOO heavy duty. My buddy has an Aerostitch Roadcrafter, and he says this kind of beast needs a couple seasons to break in. Plus i miss the soft leather neck liner of the Streetguard, the easy to open when riding zippered lower arm/wrist flaps which work as the most incredible air scoops during hot weather, the fantastic venting in front, high quality mouldable armour, yeah, the Streetguard is 'it' even now.
 
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