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Look at the amount of surface space on that rear tire!
 

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Twin A
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I Like. It's always exciting when the new race bikes come out.
It's taking me a bit to get used to the tail section. It looks kinda small, and blunt i guess. makes the rear tire look huge. I'll get used to it though.

I'm disapointed that the 800cc bikes so far haven't really looked all that different from the 990cc bikes. rather than a complete revamp the bikes are mostly just an evolution then I'd guess.

these bikes are going to make it that much harder for the superbike guys to get into the class. these are going to be 4 stroke 250cc type bikes. hiigh corner speeds.
 
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i likes other than the bodywork cutouts ,but overall high marks ,too bad hayden was only faster than the ILMORS on it .this is what wil seperate hayden and rossi .ROssi is a development rider and hayden isnt so much .
 

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Twin A
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oh yeah you are right. The Rossi/Burgess team is huge at developing a bike. Hayden not so much, less exerpience and lets face it, his style is somewhat suspect esepcially with the switch to these new bikes.. He's trying to lose his dirtrack style but how much can he be expected to change? Pedrosa could be very strong on these bikes, Honda and Repsol know this.
 

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I saw a pic of Hayden on the new bike and he looked like I do on a YSR.
 

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Twin A
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those are their bikes tho. notice the bigger rear disk on the #1 bike.
 

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it's early yet. I worry too, but, we'll see..
 

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Is the big rear disc on Nicky's bike because of his riding style? Did he used to race dirttrack?
 
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Is the big rear disc on Nicky's bike because of his riding style? Did he used to race dirttrack?

i think him and his brothers still do ,maybe not since GP ,but when he was AMA ,him and his brothers did flat track ,and kept finishing 1-2-3 i think a couple races a year .
 

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Twin A
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Can't say when was the last time Nicky raced dirttrack but yeah he came to road racing after first racing on dirt. Hey still uses the rear brake quite a bit. more than others probably, I know for a while when he started in motogp he used to have a rubber elastic on his rear brake, making it harder for him to push the lever down, making the brake less effective and sort of trying to train him to not use it.
 

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Thats old news...

MotoGP: Thursday Test Times From Valencia -- Pedrosa Fastest
800cc Development Continues
by staff
Thursday, November 02, 2006

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC212V 1:32.66
2 Chris Vermeulen Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki GSV-R 1:32.69
3 Casey Stoner Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati Desmosedici GP-7 1:32.94
4 John Hopkins Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki GSV-R 1:32.95
5 Loris Capirossi Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati Desmosedici GP-7 1:33.01
6 Nicky Hayden Repsol Honda Team Honda RC212V 1:33.03
7 Alex Barros Pramac D'antin Ducati Ducati Desmosedici GP-6 1:33.20
8 Valentino Rossi Yamaha Factory Team Yamaha YZR-M1 1:33.78
9 Jeremy McWilliams Ilmor SRT Ilmor X3 1:35.90
10 Andrew Pitt Ilmor SRT Ilmor X3 1:36.40
11 Nobuatsu Aoki Suzuki Test Team Suzuki GSV-R 1:37.30
 
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Thats old news...

MotoGP: Thursday Test Times From Valencia -- Pedrosa Fastest
800cc Development Continues
by staff
Thursday, November 02, 2006

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC212V 1:32.66
2 Chris Vermeulen Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki GSV-R 1:32.69
3 Casey Stoner Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati Desmosedici GP-7 1:32.94
4 John Hopkins Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki GSV-R 1:32.95
5 Loris Capirossi Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati Desmosedici GP-7 1:33.01
6 Nicky Hayden Repsol Honda Team Honda RC212V 1:33.03
7 Alex Barros Pramac D'antin Ducati Ducati Desmosedici GP-6 1:33.20
8 Valentino Rossi Yamaha Factory Team Yamaha YZR-M1 1:33.78
9 Jeremy McWilliams Ilmor SRT Ilmor X3 1:35.90
10 Andrew Pitt Ilmor SRT Ilmor X3 1:36.40
11 Nobuatsu Aoki Suzuki Test Team Suzuki GSV-R 1:37.30
you missed the best part
MotoGP Test -- Valencia
Wednesday 1st November 2006

Fastest Laps:

Valentino Rossi - Yamaha Factory Team - 1:32.70 (990cc)

Valentino Rossi - Yamaha Factory Team - 1:33.10 (800cc)

i think the ducs will do very well next year.

pedrosa is going to be the running joke next year ,anyone crashes in the first few races ,,"they've been pedrosa'd"

hayden better not let him beat him all year or its gonna get uncomfortable in HRC garage
 

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Rossi is still within .04 seconds of Pedrosa's best on a '06 and within .44 seconds on an 800. In a race I'd take the odds on Rossi.

But being an americun, I'd cheer for Hayden or Hopkins.....
 

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these bikes are going to make it that much harder for the superbike guys to get into the class. these are going to be 4 stroke 250cc type bikes. hiigh corner speeds.
Yeah, no kidding. As promising as Bayliss looked in that last race, these new bikes might mean he does not have as good of a 2007 season as he would have otherwise on the standard 990cc machines.

I saw a pic of Hayden on the new bike and he looked like I do on a YSR.
Maybe then Pedrosa will be able to get on the new bike without a step-ladder?
 

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Yeah, no kidding. As promising as Bayliss looked in that last race, these new bikes might mean he does not have as good of a 2007 season as he would have otherwise on the standard 990cc machines.
You do know that Bayliss won't be riding an 800 next year right? (he was a wild card rider for Valencia but was already signed up for another season back in WSB with Ducati, where they'll be running 999's again...)

As for the bikes, they look great IMO, check out the rear brake lever, Nicky has his on a HUGE angle compared to Pedrosa - wonder why?

I was kinda dissappointed with the fact that the new 800's have to weigh the same, even though dimensionally they are smaller, they are just as heavy as the 990 it replaces for some odd reason (Dorna trying to keep them safe)...BS!
 
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You do know that Bayliss won't be riding an 800 next year right? (he was a wild card rider for Valencia but was already signed up for another season back in WSB with Ducati, where they'll be running 999's again...)

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yu shure they are 999's in wsb ? i thought they are gonna run that 1200 next year .He was saying that in an interview ,,or is that for 2008 ?
 
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