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That was the first thing I considered, however I need to commute daily while I'm there. Can't do that on foot, no public transport or rental available(even the airport is just Edmonton). If I were going for for a few days I would've just ran everywhere lol but the days are too much for a rental from Edmonton/walking and not so many or the commute distance so great that I need to take my own car.
The setting was perfect for a motorcycle, only problem how to get there(PS I also wanted to take a memorable ride).
 

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With decent weather, the ride to Edmonton in a day is not a big deal. You are on 4 lanes all the way to Kamloops so that's fast and easy. Kamloops to Jasper should have reasonably light traffic and you can still make decent time. (Blue River does have some nice, clean, reasonably priced motels.) Then Jasper to Edmonton is flat, straight, and boring. I've never been to Athabasca but the map looks like an easy run from Edmonton. I spent the night in Hinton not too many years ago and there are some decent hotels; Edson should be the same.

Before you hit Edmonton, go north on Hwy 22 just east of Wildwood or Hwy 43; you will save a bit of grief with Edmonton city traffic.

Don't let long days scare you. Every touring rider should try at least one 1000 mile / 1600 km day; just to see if they are capable and how they make out. I would suggest doing that on the way home though. No motel issues. You never know where and when you may be when an emergency requires you to make a run for home. I've done Winnipeg to Vancouver in a day (1485 miles) ; last year I did Brandon, MB to Kamloops.

The big thing with long days is knowing what's expected of you that day. If you are good with spreadsheets, make up a mileage / time plan so you know if you are on time for your day's end point. Don't mess around with sit down meals and coffee stops. If you have to ride in the dark, do that in the morning when you are fresh, not at the end of the day when you're tired. And, be sure to make a motel reservation before you leave. Getting stuck on the curb after dark really sucks. BTDT.
 

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^^^ David, welcome back. I haven't seen a post from you for a long time, but I always used to appreciate your suggestions on how to travel distances enjoyably and effortlessly, not to mention alternate routes... (y)
 

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Thank you Doser. It just got too busy here and we all have other stuff that takes us away. Interestingly though, with that time comes age and bikes that get a little heavier each year. Last May 1 I rode my 2003 FJR down to Birmingham, Alabama and the Barber Motorsports Park museum. I handed them my keys and all of my riding gear. I put about 300,000 Km's on that bike and now it will be part of their collection. A place that every motorcycle rider should aspire to ride to.

I bought a new FJR but was in need of a project and perhaps a lighter bike so I found a 2015 CBR1000RR with 5,200 Km's on it. That is going to be my new regional touring bike. Not likely to take it to Newfoundland but certainly down to California, Arizona, etc when the world opens up again. I've been converting it to touring duty and that's been fun. Certainly the purists will have fits. Ever see a CBR with FJR bags on it ?

Apologies for the hijack. And now back to your previously scheduled topic...

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One more thought. Remember that when you are east bound, you are going to loose a time zone so you will loose some daylight if you run all the way to Edmonton. Mitigating that though is that you will end up further north and the sun sets later this time of year as you go north. The net loss is about 35 minutes of daylight.

Sunrise and sunset times in Edmonton
 

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Great info. 300,000 on a fjr, wow!

On your cbr project have you had any concerns over the exhaust possibly melting the case at all? I have a fz1 with the factory touring kit which consists mainly of the fjr saddlebags. It has just factory exhaust and there is a metal heatshield under the case on that side. I have been hoping to sort a aftermarket exhaust for it but have read of people melting givi bags and whatnot with aftermarket exhaust/bag setups.
 

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Great info. 300,000 on a fjr, wow!

On your cbr project have you had any concerns over the exhaust possibly melting the case at all? I have a fz1 with the factory touring kit which consists mainly of the fjr saddlebags. It has just factory exhaust and there is a metal heatshield under the case on that side. I have been hoping to sort a aftermarket exhaust for it but have read of people melting givi bags and whatnot with aftermarket exhaust/bag setups.
I know that bike and I was always surprised that the touring edition wasn't more popular. Great looking bike.

When I started looking for a CBR, I found that there were a number of years where the factory pipes were quite short. I like that generally but I thought also necessary to more easily mount bikes without interference. And when I bought the bike, it had an aftermarket pipe which was also a shorty. And looking at it now, it's not blowing exhaust directly at the bag but is fairly close. I just fired it up and held my hand where the exhaust hits the bag. Warm but no way uncomfortable so not likely to be an issue but I will monitor it.

I have not had the CBR out on the road with the bags on yet; still waiting for a wiring harness after a previous owner butchered the wiring putting on a Tidy Tail sort of arrangement. Once that's done, I'll get it insured and go for a ride. Good tip though so I will monitor the heat. I could make up a heat shield easily enough though. Maybe I'll do that while I'm waiting.
 

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If you know the gen2 fz1 then you know my pain regarding fuel range. Curious with the big km days you do if you have any inventive/preferred ways of carrying extra fuel?

I only moved to this fz1 this year, from a f4i. But with about 1100km on it so far I am unimpressed with its fuel range. 18l tank and I am still feeling it out, I regularly can get 15l on a fuel up now. On the f4i I'd taken to using a 1l sig fuel bottle I mounted up by the license plate for a just in case I need it solution. But I am always looking around for solutions/ideas. When we do our little tours with friends I'm the one who's always needing to stop it seems.

I will be curious to hear how the cbr works out for you for touring. Although I gather from reading your posts 'touring' means different things to you and I. 500-600km is a big day for me. Honestly, very comfortable day for me and I could push a lot further for certain but most of my trips are with my wife and she found 500km's a good push on her ninja300. This year she's on a 400 and so I'm hopeful that she'll find it a little easier to put on the km.
 

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I mounted an auxiliary tank on the 2003 FJR ( I now have a 2016 FJR as well ). Fairly easy job to mount and plumb in but did require drilling a hole in the bottom of the main tank - not for the faint of heart. It was on there for pretty much the entire time that I owned the bike and never gave me any problems. On the main tank I would get about 450 Km's and the auxiliary tank would bring that up to a bit under 700 km's. I had a quick look at my Iron Butt Ride logs and the longest I rode non-stop was 519 Km'; IIRC the IBA has a 500 km limit between fillups. I also mounted one on my girlfriends 2004 VFR. When your fuel gets low, just lean back and flip open the petcock. It takes about 15-20 minutes to back fill the main tank.

I have a couple of aux tanks kicking around here and would be happy to give you one and help you mount it if you like. They hold about 20 liters. You would just need to buy a Pingel petcock, some gas line tubing, and the bulkhead fitting for your main tank. Possibly a filler cap. All easy stuff to get.

Here's a pic. Notice that the profile sort of matches the FJR bags :
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Wow. That's a very generous offer. I am in the north okanagan just outside of Vernon so not sure how that would work out? I'd love to have a setup like that though and could possibly travel to where you are on a weekend or something? Due to covid I'm on a workshare program right now so only work four days a week(mon-thur).

Right now I'm getting about 200km until the reserve(f-trip) comes on and I can comfortably get another 30km out of that but I could easily knock 20-30km off of those numbers with spirited/aggressive riding it would seem.
 

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As soon as I get insurance on the CBR, I'll be out doing day rides. I have a friend in Vernon who will likely meet me for coffee somewhere and I can pass the tank along to him. Or you can join us. Probably meet in Osoyoos or Cache Creek. I just checked and the spare tank isn't the one with the FJR bag profile but otherwise is the same size and similarly shaped. Best to email me direct : fjr AT ldrider DOT ca
 

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Last May 1 I rode my 2003 FJR down to Birmingham, Alabama and the Barber Motorsports Park museum. A place that every motorcycle rider should aspire to ride to.

I bought a new FJR but was in need of a project and perhaps a lighter bike so I found a 2015 CBR1000RR with 5,200 Km's on it. That is going to be my new regional touring bike. Not likely to take it to Newfoundland but certainly down to California, Arizona, etc when the world opens up again. I've been converting it to touring duty and that's been fun. Certainly the purists will have fits. Ever see a CBR with FJR bags on it ?

Apologies for the hijack. And now back to your previously scheduled topic...

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the BarTender was reminding me today that two years ago we were eating breakfast in Alabama! and yup, Barber is totally astonishing!

I think that luggage looks great, and the bike will certainly be excitingly quick! I love hard luggage - secure, weatherproof, easy in and outa motels... RubHerDown has run CBR1000RRs as his touring machines for years, of course, and I've done a 1200 km day with him, without peril! Gonna raise the bars, or stay stock?
 

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When I rode down to Barber, I handed them the keys to the bike and all of my riding gear then flew home. It'll be on display one of these years. There will be 3 or 4 bikes together called the "Million Milers" or something like that.

I have some Apex riser bars on order but the world is working at a glacial pace and my bars are in some UPS black hole at the moment. And I have to get a longer front brake line so that may take a while.

I feel bad that we have so badly hijacked this thread. I started a new one over in the Sport Touring section if anyone would like to chat about such things.

Touring on a CBR1000RR ?
 

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I have some Apex riser bars on order but the world is working at a glacial pace and my bars are in some UPS black hole at the moment. And I have to get a longer front brake line so that may take a while.

I feel bad that we have so badly hijacked this thread. I started a new one over in the Sport Touring section if anyone would like to chat about such things.

Touring on a CBR1000RR ?
bar risers - that was all that Stuart (RHD) did of significance.

as for the hijack, there's so little going on on the site that it hardly matters. 'topics' are pretty open... people will find whatever they need, easily. not the 'buzz' of a FB site, but there are some seriously experienced and 'useful' riders on here still. not quite 'dead' yet...
 

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and, further to my 'memory' from the earlier post, if anyone wants to relive the Appalachian tour that Scott and I did in May 2016, here's the link:


(let the hijack continue!)

btw, the day after we toured Barber, we dropped into lovely backroads in Georgia, and had one of the finest moments of the trip when we raced a freight train to a crossing and ripped across, over and pretty big hump, with the horn blaring in the background. in fact, it wasn't super-close, but it felt like being a stunt star in a movie! delicious! damn, that was a great trip...
 

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I for one am certainly glad this place hasn't died completely. I very much appreciate a forum format and to be able to communicate with experienced people vs the black hole of nonsense that Facebook is.
 

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btw, the day after we toured Barber, we dropped into lovely backroads in Georgia, and had one of the finest moments of the trip when we raced a freight train to a crossing and ripped across, over and pretty big hump, with the horn blaring in the background. in fact, it wasn't super-close, but it felt like being a stunt star in a movie! delicious! damn, that was a great trip...
Good times indeed. A quick glance back at you, and you immediately knew what was going to happen next.

In hindsight, i think we should have spent more time in Northern Georgia. That area around Dahlonega had perhaps some of the best mix of scenery, windy roads, and great pavement.
 

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Myself, I would just ask my phone to give me the best route from Van to Athabasca. I've done the Van to Merrit and on to the Fraser canyon ride, which gets me to Kamloops and then stayed in Blue River. I've also gone the #5, which is faster (140kmh), but boring. I've stopped in Edsen for a rest and eaten in the restaurant there. Really decent food.
 

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A few years back a group of us spent our first day riding to Blue River and did a great route. Far better than Hwy 1 and the Coquihalla.

  • Vancouver to Cache Creek via Duffey Lake.
  • Cache Creek to Little Fort via 70 Mile House, Green Lake, Bridge Lake. From 70 Mile House you need to be careful to watch the road signs to stay on the paved route but this route is beautiful and quiet.
  • Alt : Cache Creek to Little Fort via 93 Mile House, Hwy 24, Bridge Lake
  • Little Fort to Blue River
 
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