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driving down I5 yesterday, got pulled over by a cop who was waiting for me on the shoulder. 4 other cop cars were present. he pulls me over and tells me the plane is was in the air and got me doing 87- in a 70. 122 bucks later and i'm driving away furious. then i look at my ticket and he has my bday wrong, at july instead of august and he wrote my license is a washington state one. i searched and saw i can get it reduced to $100 but i'm hoping i can get it to zero because the cop's errors. anyone have any advice? on the ticket there is a box that says CDL and then yes/no check boxes, does this stand for Canadian Drivers License? because he checked that NO and that would then total 3 errors on the same ticket. thanks in advance
 
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driving down I5 yesterday, got pulled over by a cop who was waiting for me on the shoulder. 4 other cop cars were present. he pulls me over and tells me the plane is was in the air and got me doing 87- in a 70. 122 bucks later and i'm driving away furious. then i look at my ticket and he has my bday wrong, at july instead of august and he wrote my license is a washington state one. i searched and saw i can get it reduced to $100 but i'm hoping i can get it to zero because the cop's errors. anyone have any advice? on the ticket there is a box that says CDL and then yes/no check boxes, does this stand for Canadian Drivers License? because he checked that NO and that would then total 3 errors on the same ticket. thanks in advance


dude, IF you can get it reduced, do it, getting it too zero can actually cost a bit, since you have to go down there to appear, also, the cdl stands for commercial driver liscence.......just in the way you typed that out, makes it seem like you payed on the scene?...please tell me you didn`t do that..some highway patrol guys.gals do this in the states, that way you don`t get anything on your record, since as of december 1st this year, all offences in either country will appear on your record...
 

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i didn't pay it on scene... that sucks that it'll show on my record though. anyone have any advice on the air radar?
 
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read the ticket over again. make sure that there is no disclaimer stating that the information, correct or otherwise, written in specific areas has no bearing on the offenses you are accused of.

it's on our tickets. a wrong birth date or error on entering the driver's license number doesn't get you off automagically.
 

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If it is like Oregon, small factual errors don't make the ticket invalid.

I had my $240 USD ticket overturned (ie, I got the whole $240 back) when I checked the no contest option on the back of the ticket and wrote a nice, sucky letter to the court, explaining the circumstances. Ticket was for passing in a no-passing zone.

6 weeks later, cheque in my mailbox. The District Court has the option of leaving the fine as it is, reducing the amount of the fine or dismissing the ticket completely based on evidence, not a clerical error.... at least in Oregon.
 

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up here if they make a mistake oin personal info from your DL the ticket is void. Only on that info though. I had a ticket where the cop didn't put my whole plate down, but when I checked with some vpd cops they said it only mattered on personal info.
 

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Deal with it.
If you are guilty and do nothing about it you can be
guaranteed that a warrant for your arrest will be issued in the future.
It happenned to my dad in Florida on a 5 year old speeding ticket.
Straight to jail.
 
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up here if they make a mistake oin personal info from your DL the ticket is void. Only on that info though. I had a ticket where the cop didn't put my whole plate down, but when I checked with some vpd cops they said it only mattered on personal info.
you'd be 100% wrong.

your personal info goes into a "shaded area". at the bottom of the ticket it says that the shaded areas of the ticket are not part of the offense. they can say you drove a horse and cart, you were born before christ and your plate # was 666 and it would still stick.
 

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Since as of december 1st this year, all offences in either country will appear on your record...
That is the first time I have heard of this and I wonder if you have some hard data that clearly outlines this.

It has been my understanding that BC does not collect ticket information from any other Provinces or States

Many Thanks
 
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i`ll have to find the info, it might only invovle commercial drivers, next time i go across i`ll check with the customs guy iw as talking to down there about it
 

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Yeah, I'd like to know about that info about tickets in the States coming up on your record here. Not that I plan on getting ticketes down there...
 

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I'm fairly certain it would require a legislative change to the motor vehicle act, to have tickets issued in other jurisdictions "count," for your BC driver's records.
From the www.icbc.com info center:
When you're ticketed for a traffic or driving violation under the B.C. Motor Vehicle Act or its regulations, driver penalty points (DPPs) will be recorded against your driving record.

You may also receive points against your driving record for certain Criminal Code of Canada convictions (such as impaired driving), or other offences, without getting a violation ticket.

I haven't scourred the Motor Vehicle Act, or Regulations to see if there's any changes to this since December 1.
 

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If I were you, I'd just send a cheque and be thankful that there's no points. In the end it would be just as expensive to take a day off work and travel to a courthouse in WA to fight it, no?

I prefer to ride in the States for exactly this reason - if I get dinged for speeding, it's just $$.
 

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Oh, another thing...

I've found through personal experience and from stories of others, that writing an apology letter of some sort (like a 'no contest' plea) will sometimes get the entire infraction waved.

I have a sneaky suspicion that it has something to do with honoring a bill of sale, which is essentially what a traffic ticket is. By making an attempt to amend the situation before heading to litigation, it shows good faith on your part and takes the wind out of the sails of the legal process. Essentially, court is the last resort for resolving any dispute. By showing that you're willing to take responsibility for your actions and make an attempt to resolve the issue before going to litigation, you're proving that court proceedings are not necessary.

I've had a speeding ticket waved and a driving restriction waved simply by writing a letter of apology to the court in reply to the summons. I've had friends report the same results.

Hey, it's worth a shot!
 

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thanks thumper and tatoodles, going to send the money order and letter of apology, i'll keep everyone updated. i travel in the states a lot and it's definately not worth getting shit for. plus i figure it would be 190 ticket up here.
 

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Lot's of misinformation there...at any rate...he has you down as a Washington State plate, and the wrong DOB..more than likely the QC person will find the discrepencies and round file it....I'd just ignore it...but if you want to fight it you'll likely have to go to court. He will have an opportunity to "amend" the mistakes at the beginning of court. If he fails to do so you can then challenge the ticket on the mistakes and the charge will be dropped.

There was talk of mutual ticket/fine info sharing between Wash. and BC but I don't know if it ever came about.

Keep in mind though..you were in the wrong...fighting the ticket is just another form of system abuse...it's up to you if you want to weasel out on a technicality.

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I would ignore the ticket if it has your plate as a Washington plate. That's a big screw up on his part.
 

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If I were you, I'd just send a cheque and be thankful that there's no points. In the end it would be just as expensive to take a day off work and travel to a courthouse in WA to fight it, no?
And furthermore, if you decide not to pay it and not to fight it, don't get caught riding around in WA ever again. They'll impound your bike at the side of the road apparently.
 

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You can dispute/plead for leniency on Washington state tickets through the mail - no need to travel down there for a court date. I got a ticket down there a couple years ago and it got knocked down by a significant amount after I wrote a letter.
 
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