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Harley-Davidson showed a new XR 1200 based on the air-cooled Sportster 1200 engine. New is down draft fuel injection, chassis, sporty pipes and loads of ground clearance. performance are between 85-90bhp and around 75ftlb according to Harley-Davidson. The bike also gets an electronically controlled active air intake system. All in ode to the XR 750 flat tracker.

This is a pretty clean looking Harley.
 

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I like it too, they should have made the tank blent in with the seat more like in the pic below.

 

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a step in the right direction, but 90hp from 1200cc is just sad.
 

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... but 75 ft-lbs will kick you down the road in fine style. And it could easily be argued that 90'ish hp is easily enough for the street.

I'd be all over this one like white on rice if it's not stupidly expensive. Sign me up for the next Trev Deeley test ride day! ! ! !
 

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Now that's a Hardley that I would seat my ass upon!!! I really like the dirt-tracker styling, wonder what the price tag is gonna look like though, as Bruce already mentioned.
 

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Notice the footpegs are in what we refer to as a conventional position, and not "cruiser style with your legs out front".

Nice going, HD.
 

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That's a nice looking bike. Love that Flat Tracker look. Bet they are not cheap.
 

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... but 75 ft-lbs will kick you down the road in fine style...
still quite mild for 1200cc

that's almost exactly the torque output of an SV1000... but how much heavier is this thing than the suzuki?
 

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still quite mild for 1200cc

that's almost exactly the torque output of an SV1000... but how much heavier is this thing than the suzuki?
Yes it probably is mild for a 1200. And it's probably heavier than an SV.

But since we can't use our bikes to 100% on the street and stay alive and keep our license intact we're left with how the bike FEELS during regular riding. And then there's how the bike looks and how that makes us feel. So let's just say that for some of us we like how the bike looks and if the feel of riding it matches how it looks then we'd be happy.

And that's the thing. It's not always about what the scale says or what the stopwatch says.... unless you're actually racing to win against other bikes then the scale and the stopwatch means everything.
 

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What's Stortz?
 

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Ahh, thanks very much. :)
 

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still quite mild for 1200cc

that's almost exactly the torque output of an SV1000... but how much heavier is this thing than the suzuki?


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It depends where in the rpm range that it makes the amount of torque, and I am not sure of it to be honest.........Harleys usually make it at a low rpm level, pefect for blasting out of the corners and short shifting. The heavy weight of the reciprocating mass certainly helps in the torque department.

Your comments about horsepower and torque being low are quite humourous when noticing that you have a 95 Geo Metro 1 litre car in your stable. :laughing
 
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>snip< how the bike FEELS during regular riding. And then there's how the bike looks and how that makes us feel. So let's just say that for some of us we like how the bike looks and if the feel of riding it matches how it looks then we'd be happy.

And that's the thing. It's not always about what the scale says or what the stopwatch says.... unless you're actually racing to win against other bikes then the scale and the stopwatch means everything.

Well said and my thoughts exactly.
This explains why I ride the bike I do.
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...Your comments about horsepower and torque being low are quite humourous when noticing that you have a 95 Geo Metro 1 litre car in your stable. :laughing
I'm glad you found some amusement in that fact.

What I currently own is not necessarily indicative of what I have owned, what I know, or what I've experienced.

The Metro is built strictly for efficiency and does it well... it's also quite a bit lighter than virtually any other economy car around (think about 300lbs less than a 92 Civic... the 92 Metro I once had was about 150lbs lighter still)
They're also geared appropriately to make the most of the output of the engine.
Basically, they feel a lot "peppier" than they actually are.
 
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